Ward using Plant for his legacy.

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  1. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    Why is Ward training Plant? Is it because he likes him or to protect his own legacy? If Canelo gets undisputed at 168, it will ruin Ward's legacy. It doesn't matter if Plant gets undisputed at 168 because his resume is Uber drivers. Ward is currently one of the 168's two goats for me. (With RJJ) If Canelo is undisputed, my ranking may change.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Conteh'sLeft

    Conteh'sLeft Active Member Full Member

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    Not at all , the guys Cinnamon has beaten to take the title aren't even on the level of Ward's second tier wins at SMW.

    Jealousy might be a reason though , Ward always had a chip on the shoulder regarding public perceptions on how he used to fight which was very forgettable for the casuals and remembered mostly for rough housing tactics.

    He's the de facto king of SMW ,with a better claim than Calzaghe due to his resume, he doesn't want to cede that in the eyes of people to Cinnamon .
     
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Ward’s legacy is secure. He fought and defeated a murderer’s row of opponents. Canelo should be glad he did not have to face Ward .
     
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  4. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Talking about GOATs of 168 without mentioning Calzaghe is a straight out joke...
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty sure Ward training Plant has nothing to do with his legacy.
     
  6. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe has little, if any, legacy when discussing all time greats. Hiding out for a decade with the WBO is some Terrence Crawford ****. Now imagine a fighter doing that with a fraction of the talent of a Crawford. It's ridiculous. You don't go from doing that plus narrowly beating washed up ATG's to becoming a "GOAT" of anything.

    Slappy Joe will forever be overrated on this forum.
     
  7. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward has to garner respect for winning the Super Six. It's time for boxing fans to RESPECT pro tournament winners to a greater degree. People will hate his style as they hated Hopkins, but ultimately Ward had all the components of an ATG.

    That said, he lost to Kovalev in the first fight. This will ALWAYS be mentioned when discussing Ward and his legacy. It would've been better for his legacy to take the legitimate L, then win fights 2 & 3, which he was certainly capable of doing.
     
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  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Two guys doing the exact same thing at the exact same time at 168 leaves both in the dark. Ottke and Ward should be ashamed they never fought to unify.
     
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  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I thought the same thing, but he said "for him". In all honesty, one can argue that RJJ and Ward are number 1& 2, just as one can argue Calzaghe is #1 or 2. Sure would be great to see a mini tournament with prime RJJ, Calz, Canelo and Ward.
     
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  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    First of all the judges gave him the verdict over Kovalev, he did not award it to himself. He deserved the verdict over Kovalev narrow though it was and in the next fight it was emphatic and he made the bully quit.
     
  11. BCS8

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    :cheer::cheer::cheer::clapclap::cheer::cheer::cheer:
     
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  12. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bad decisions happen in boxing. This was one of those bad decisions. Ward lost, and people will never forget it. I'm not suggesting Ward should have "awarded himself" the L. It would have been BETTER for his legacy if Kovalev had been given the decision he rightfully earned, and Ward had won the rematches.
     
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  13. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    The fact is Kovalev did not win the first fight. I scored it for Ward narrowly. The truth is he worked Kovalev out and won.
     
  14. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Drink more coffee.
     
  15. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The majority of knowledgable people who saw the fight do not agree with your "truth". That's what I'm telling you. The fight is on youtube if you need to rewatch. You don't seem capable of absorbing the points I'm making, so let's leave it at that.