WARD V RUIZ

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  1. tinman

    tinman Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward was dropped very hard and heavy with the single lone semi flush right hand that Kovalev landed. Kovalev had to be wary of Wards power because even though Ward is a light hitter hes still about the same size as Kovalev. And Kovalev had a somewhat shaky chin.

    Ruiz is going to eventually just walk through Ward.
     
  2. RingKing75

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    Greetings my fellow fan. I didnt say he would knock him out what I was saying is if Kov can drop him then Ruiz would knock him out if he connects and odds are he would at some point. If I had to give an over under on Ward beating Ruiz id set the line at under 10%. That being said its still possible Ward out boxes Ruiz for 12 rounds and doesnt get hurt. Its all speculative though as I don't see this fight happening.
     
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  3. cslb

    cslb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What do you mean "very hard and heavy"? lol Ward may have been buzzed, it happens in fights, but he got right back up. As for Ward being a light hitter, he seems to hit hard enough to keep people from walking through him. I probably shouldn't have made this thread since Ward has retired and probably inactive so the fight probably won't happen. An in-form Ward with a chance to get a couple of fights and move up in weight before facing Ruiz would be a good fight in my opinion but that's just my opinion.
     
  4. tinman

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    I recall Ward being dazed and wobbly for the remainder of the 2nd round after being dropped. Legs were uncoordinated and not under him at all.
     
  5. Jake LaMotta

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    If anyone can do it it is Ward, anyone writing him off completely is being way too reactionary. Inactivity is the biggest problem. If this happened a year, year and a half ago I'd say yeah very good chance. However physically and mentally I think Ward is done with fighting.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    I've never bought into the "Ward could move up and become a heavyweight champ" theory, no matter how weak the division has been. Usyk launching from cruiser and doing so is one thing. A natural super middle (and not all that hard-hitting a super middle, at that) doing so is another.

    Divisions exist for a reason, and even greats have limits.
     
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  7. Jake LaMotta

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    I haven't either given the way the size of the modern HW is, but against someone like Ruiz or someone of that size and without Wilder/Joshua/Ortiz level of power there is a chance, a small one but given it is Ward there is a chance. I don't think I've ever seen someone able to find a way to win like Ward.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Yeah, but, two-edged sword: just as the gap in power favoring Wilder/Joshua/Ortiz shrinks with Ruiz, so too does the gap in skill & speed favoring Ward shrink.
     
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  9. Jake LaMotta

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    Very fair point.
     
  10. thesmokingm

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    Lotta ppl on here think Ruiz is simple minded or some ****. Ruiz is a born and bred boxer. If you cannot tell that by watching him move for 5 minutes.... smh.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

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    Exactly, folks probably just subconsciously conflate & free-associate him with Arreola because they're both fat Mexican-Americans. They are NOTHING alike.
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair enough but Ward couldn`t take heavyweigt punches on the way in and wasn`t as skilled as Mike was at being a pressure/fighter, he wouldn`t have the heavyweight punch to fight that way, bit silly comparing Ward to Tyson at heavy on a side note, it would go lie the Spinks fight, I don`t even think Ward would have had the power to stop Cooney like the blown up light heavy Spinks did.
     
  13. mark ant

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    Usyk would beat him, Ruiz would give Usyk a tougher fight at heavy than Ward would.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kov would struggle against the best cruisers in history, light heavy is a lot lighter than Cruiser, Usyk would be far harder to beat than Kov was and I don`t think Ward has ever fought a 6'3 fighter.
     
  15. cslb

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    How tall was Dawson?