Ward's trainer: Froch lacks respect for predecessors

Well, I checked the quotes and it turns out he said he'd be 'disappointed' if Ward failed to stop Abraham. Infers he was expecting it.

Which is frankly an odd thing to say given Abraham's chin/style.

 

So Froch is a coward then for his tactics in the Johnson fight? Where every time Johnson got near him he held on, tied up Glen's arms and prevented him from working? Mayweather is a coward in every single one of his fights because he pushes the elbow into the neck, grabs behind the head etc? I've very rarely seen Ward not work on the inside, he always has at least one hand free and works with it, only for the opponent to try to catch it behind his elbow and stop the action completely.

 

What's Froch got to do with my opinion on Ward tieing up?. It's something me personally don't like to see. I understand why fighters do it but i don't have to like it. I don't agree with any fighter doing it on a persistent and tactical basis.

 

You insinuated that doing it made him cowardly. By that logic so is Froch based on how often he did it against Johnson, no? Unlike Ward, he didn't work on the inside and prevented any action. Ward ties up one arm and works with the other, Froch grabs and halts the action completely, so surely Froch comes off worse? Which would make him even more of a coward.

 

I never mentioned Froch in that post cos i wasn't talking about Froch i was talking about Ward. As my last said i don't like it full stop so i don't see why your making same point about Froch. I never said he doesn't wrap up and grab...

 

Mand. I just think Ward is the type of fighter who shines in big fights but looks run-of-the-mill in lesser fights due to his style. He has to be in BIG fights all the time for it to mean anything to the fans as 'showcase' fights just won't do it.

Some fighters are so dynamic that they'll look spectacular against lesser opponents, they could fight anyone and you'll see a show. Roy Jones being a prime example. Ward is not that type of guy.

The best way i can describe him is, he's a winner not a killer. His style is not always pleasing and i'm not all that crazy about his holding either, but i do appreciate it. Like i said though he's the type who ALWAYS needs to be in big fights.

 

That's a good post and i get what you mean Slip. I do worry he's been waiting for the final to shine. Bloody Hope not! but has run through head a few times.

I am a fan but at same time lost time for him over course of this tournament plus i really like Froch so i be backing the Cobra!

 

My point that if you think Ward is cowardly for doing it then as a result you would have that opinion of every single fighter that does it. Froch was an example, so was Mayweather. There are countless fighters that halt the fight more than Ward. In fact, in Ward's fights it's his opponent that stops the fight, Ward is always working with at least one hand before the adversary latches on to it.

He's far more astute even on the inside than he's given credit for, he shuts the opponent down while racking up points, whereas the vast majority of fighters merely clasp on to the other guy and stop everything completely, maybe stick in a kidney shot here and there. Ward's one of the few that consistently works.

 

I just don't like it across the board mate, I mean persistent or tactical holding as much it's part of the game i just dnt like it.

Cowardly nah probs a bit harsh but when it gets silly yes i'd say it borders on it. I agree totally about his inside work especially against Green he bullied a far bigger man. He's a classy fight minus the headclashes etc.

 

Well if i was Froch, id be pinning that quote from Hunter about Ward stopping him, on the wall at training for the next few weeks. I genuinely think Froch is going to give Ward absolute hell on Dec 17th, he's just too tough mentally and physically to be dominated, never mind bullied by Ward, just can't see that happen though id gladly eat humble pie if im proven wrong.

 

Obviously by mentioning calzaghe, they are just trying to get under his skin. Froch probably got to them with a few comments and now they want to turn the tables and bring up calzaghe.

 

Although i expect Ward to win at least 7 or 8 rounds. You're right, Froch is a hard guy to dominate even for someone as rounded and refined as Ward. Carl just has so much moxie and he's deceptive in a lot of ways...Ward will have to earn his victory, no doubt about it.

 

I happen to agree with Virgil Hill that there is. An excellent chance Ward will stop Froch.

 

Ward will stop him IMO, he'll land consistently, rough Frochy up on the inside and knock him around late.

I think this fight will bring out the very best of Ward from a stylistic point-of-view, and I don't think Froch can outbox Ward (obviously) nor do I think he's got the firepower to bang him out.

 

Ward is a spoiler, mostly because he knows his chin isn't great. He fouls constantly and, at times, it just wears me out. He's utterly tedious to watch which is all the more frustrating when he has a variety of skills and seems like a nice, genuine guy. Although, this "I don't get respect" thing is annoying: he's a stay-at-home fighter (by his own admission before the S6 began) and gets the benefit of every doubt. He should have had points taken off against Kessler for the flagrant butting.