Warren: “Eddie don’t want it.”

Eddie wanted to see the contract and the other details involved with the fight, as well as proof of 50 million


You would have to be out of your mind to think that’s an unreasonable expectation given the size of this fight and amount of money involved

Eddie and Joshua want to fight ; Wilder does not

“team Wilder” has made this whole thing a joke on a Jr high level

 

Realistically what do people think will be the stumbling blocks that are stipulated in the initial contract?

The first one off the bat will probably be the ring walk.

 

Yeah so he said.... on Twitter....

 

man shes hotttttt

 

The first stumbling block has been not drafting a contract upon Hearn's request, providing proof of funds.......Or at the very least meeting with the guy.

Finkel "Eddie, I've got $50 mil for Joshua to fight Wilder".

Eddie "Interesting, can i see the Escrow account?"

Finkel "No".

Eddie "How about a contract then"?

Finkel "No".

Eddie "Let's discuss it at the meeting on Friday then, 10:30 ok?".

Finkel "About that....I don't think meeting would be productive in making this fight".

 

I posted a long time ago that Wilder does not want to fight Joshua for any amount of money. If they do fight, the judges, referee, boxing commission would all have to be own by Haymon......................but even then Wilder will not fight him, he is afraid, he knows his limits, he won't stand a chance! Wilder signed to fight Breazeale a long time ago, Haymon made Breazeale Wilder's mandatory, why? Because he can! Breazeale is owned by Haymon, was knocked out by Joshua, can't fight at all........................WILDER DOES NOT WANT TO FIGHT JOSHUA!

 

Do you know why?

He was responding to tweets sent to him by people who had seen false stories about his offer to Wilder.

Wilder's team leaked the offer and they added a 48 hour deadline to make it a better story and make Hearn look like he didn't want the fight. They leaked to the press without even replying to the offer.

If you think the last 2 weeks has been an unedifying media circus which has made it harder to see the fight made, then you need to trace it back to team Wilder's decision to leak an offer to the press. Hearn bears responsibility for goading them, but as far as I'm aware he hasn't breached commercial confidentiality in this way.

 

Finkle leaked the $12.5 million.....

Then took it a step further by giving the $50 million offer and the reasoning behind not meeting to the press, before informing Hearn!


All this talk of "Haymon has made huge fights before" talk becomes irrelevant at this point. As Haymon has never let anything like this happen before.....

Hearn is trying the right thing though, and is right when he keeps saying "I'm only interested in talking to Haymon, only we can make this fight".


Short version - Finkle and Dibella are running about like a bunch of morons.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with many of the points you make but will focus on this one. Hearn knew who he was dealing with and how they would react to a low-ball, especially the flat fee aspect which was intentionally disrespectful to 'prod the bear'. I'm not disputing he's smarter than Team Wilder but he wanted the 'negotiations' to be conducted in public but didn't want to be seen as the one that made them so. They walked right into it. Subsequently, he's (rightly) talked about being in the power position and how AJ and Matchroom were the ones holding all the aces and they were not going to overpay. These have been his main points and ones he's made repeatedly. He forgets to moan about the $12.5m details being made public, I've not heard him make this point too often. Why? Because he wanted them to be made public to appear in control and to create a platform to pour cold water on the fight.... for now.

He's a smart operator and I actually like him in many ways (been great for British boxing), but like his dad he's a salesman and everything he does is calculated. He only seemed to lose his equilibrium when Wilder first emailed him the $50m counter 'offer' because he wasn't setting the agenda for a couple of days and wasn't in control. He wrestled that back because Team Wilder cancelled meetings and lost the modicum of credibility they recouped.

Bottom line is, neither side seemingly wants this fight next and both are dealing with this reality in their own way. But I don't buy Hearn's spin and sneaking Povetkin onto the AJ vs Parker card (and introducing him to the sport casuals) was the first sign he was creating non-Wilder options, not as fall-backs but as next moves. Again, smart move. But Hearn's marketing strategy which portrays him as a man battling against the odds to try make this fight and Team Wilder the roadblocks to it, is a long way from the truth. But hey, he's got the patter. It's easy to fall for...