warren fighting soon

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 401Tank, Aug 12, 2008.


  1. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought Warren won the fight. The last 3 rounds were very closely contested and judging them alone I'd have no problem with the Korean winning. But the 4-4 score after the first round was a bit of a joke.
    Warren should have had 7-8 points from the first(and that's taking into account the cautious nature of the judges) and Lee was lucky to get 4, as the 4 reasonable punches he landed in the round were all scored(unlike Warren).

    Lee was also a bit lucky in the sense that I think he had 3 body shots scored, I don't think I've seen any other fighter gain that many points from body shots yet and it's not like he had a concentrated body attack. I've no problem with those points being scored as such as they were legitimate scoring blows. But constancy is a problem. Others boxers have had a much better body attack than that, scoring, clearer, harder, straighter punches to the body in more numerous amounts and get 0 points from it.

    Credit to ok-sung he fought a smart and determined fight, but Warren deserves to still be in the Olympics more than Andrade. I thought the Georgian did a better job on Andrade than Lee did on Warren.
     
  2. MarcoPolo

    MarcoPolo Active Member Full Member

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    I actually agree with this. I thought that Warren shaded it, based primarily on his clearly superior work in the first round.

    However, if you spend the last round running away because you think you are ahead, and it turns out that you aren't, I can't help thinking that you get what you deserve. I have no problem with counterpunchers or slick hit and move operators. In fact I tend to prefer those fighters. I'm certainly not one of the people who complains that there isn't enough blood and thunder brawling in the amateur game. But some of the running away by boxers who know they are ahead has been taking the ****. I can't help thinking that there's a certain justice in a fighter getting bitten in the ass by his own behaviour.
     
  3. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did the same ****ing thing against Rigondeaux; and Rigo looked at him for the last round like he was an idiot.
     
  4. MarcoPolo

    MarcoPolo Active Member Full Member

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    You see, I can almost forgive this mistake the first time. Rigondeaux was better than Warren. Quite a bit better at that. If Warren thought he was ahead, then trying at all costs to protect that lead makes a certain amount of sense. It isn't very sportsmanlike, but when you are a kid up against a peak Rigondeaux, I find it hard to blame you for taking any advantage you can get.

    However, to make the same mistake a second time in the Olympics is just idiocy. And it's made all the worse by the fact that Warren is better than Lee. It's not as if he was a heavy underdog, afraid to tussle with his opponent. He was the favourite. He was better than the Korean when he bothered to actually fight, and he knew that going in. And yet he still clearly had a gameplan of nicking a lead and then running away until the bell rang. Unbelievable, really.

    I have real sympathy for him. He's worked for years to get to an Olympics as one of the favourites, and then he blows a fight he should have won through his own foolishness (or that of his corner, depending on exactly what happened). I always liked him because he had the patience to come back for a second Olympics rather than just going pro as a kid. I hope he goes on to a succesful pro career now.

    I also hope though that he'll serve as an object lesson for some of the boxers in this tournament who have looked as if they'd prefer to be on the track team as soon as they think they've got a lead.