Warren says Usyk is injured/Parker will likely defend full WBO title against Whyte-Itauma winner

Usyk has done more than could have reasonably been asked of him in terms of matchmaking. His opponents are basically all top class minus his first fight at heavyweight.

Still he doesn't really seem too eager to fight parker. The numbers must not be right I think. Since I think kabayel hardly gets mentioned by the relevant parties I assume the same for him.

Second thing is: turki seems to want to make fury or itauma or even aj. So british-based fighters.

My takeaway is: the british are a hell of a target group right now apparently. And turki seems to favor them a LOT. Seems to be worth it

 

Ok this Ituama hype is getting overboard.

Although I saw that Chisora was offered $2mil to fight Ituama, said no, and then they went to Whyte. How scary does a mother****er have to be for Chisora to nope out of the fight and laugh about it? Yikes.

 

I actually think so, but not in the traditional sense. I like Parker, but I don't think he can beat Usyk, and I doubt Usyk is scared of him. Parker just doesn't bring in a big pay day. Although at this point I don't think too many guys do.

 

That sounds a bit unhinged. I have to dig up every other past heavyweight and call them out too? How about we just stay on topic.

I also never said it was acceptable for other champions to duck their mandatories. I've certainly criticized Fury and Wilder for doing the same. Usyk is no exception.

And no, just because you accept it as part and parcel it doesn't mean I have to. Dropping belts to avoid mandatories takes away the meaning of being multi-time champion when you're barely fighting 1-2 times a year.

As far as I'm concerned Usyk is still the champion and hasn't lost that status via belt gifting, so at no point do I consider him 2 or 3x what he's already accomplished.

I've got no issue with the quality of fights Usyk has taken so far (except Dubios 2) but he needs to stop these pointless rematches and actually defend his belts. Or he can retire.

 

And this is why fighters will always just do w/e the hell they want to do. Unlike clowns like Fury, Usyk has done everything the right way. He wasn't gifted anything. Fought the best, beat 'em twice so there was no doubt, and cleaned up a division where the top guys were busy spending all their time not fighting each other. What's his reward for all that hard work and giving us fans the best fights and finally an Undisputed champ after a quarter of a freaking century? Mrbigshot thinks he's a duck and is desperate to hold onto a belt, nevermind that he already let another belt go previously with the IBF and that Parker is so unspectacular he had trouble with mediocre Cruiserweights like Massey. /facepalm

You'll never make all the room temperature IQ mouth-breathers happy. So just do w/e you want. Fury does and he gets rewarded at every turn.

The whole thing is farcical. The rankings in boxing are nonsense. We all know this. Or I dunno, maybe some of the Mensa members here think Okolie deserves to be #1 with the WBC. Or that Hunter deserves to be #1 with the WBA. Or that Itauma, who has literally fought no one in the Top 20-25 or gone past six rounds should be #1 with the WBO. And not only are the rankings nonsense, the mandatories are nonsense, too. Explain to me how Dubois deserved to be the mandatory for Usyk back when. Beat a string of bums who no one has ever heard of, magically becomes the mandatory for Usyk the Unified HW Champ. Tell me how that works when you had 5-6 guys AT LEAST with better resumes, better recent form, and would have been a better test for Usyk. Oh, that's right. It was another Frank Warren special. He was desperate to throw up a roadblock and keep Usyk away from Fury so Fury could go dick around with Chisora and Ngannou.

So the rankings are nonsense. The mandatories are nonsense. But you crybabies are going to squeeze out your greasy little tears because a guy who just fought a month ago hasn't immediately handed over a belt or signed up to fight a small money bore in Parker. Stop embarrassing yourselves. No one will ever see Parker as a legitimate champ anyway as long as Usyk is around. Just like no one seriously considered Dubois a legitimate champ. Why does Parker need a belt? Be a man, fight Kabayel to prove you're actually the #2 guy, and then you can start crying about Usyk not giving you your shot.

 

I'm from the UK myself but ****ing hell we have way too much pull dont we?

 

Hearts and minds

Hopefully the WBO will be forthcoming with the details of this injury in the coming days. I'm sure Dr. Usman Sajjad is drafting the sick note as we speak. No need to worry

 

A friend said to me some years ago "Why do you care so much about a 'sport' that is so obviously and openly corrupt?"
I've never really had a satisfactory answer for that. I think most of us know what you are writing is true, but if we accept that as being the case the sport of boxing dies. And it's the sport of boxing that we as children fell in love with. Many of the posters on here will have participated in the sport at some level, believed in what some may call childish notions of fairness and the ladder, and so maybe hold out hope that boxing can still be redeemed. Maybe it can't. Maybe it is just a case of enjoy the circus and not think too deeply about it all.

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I can't and won't disagree with what you've said about the rankings and mandatories. It's tough to face as a fan, and it absolutely sucks.

Respectfully I'd like to ask you this - in your opinion who should Usyk fight next?

 

Sure. Some people will never give him credit.
But others go the other extreme.

Truth is, Parker is (and has been for about 18 months) a more credible opponent than Fury was, or Dubois the first time.

 

If that's the case, let him retire.

 

Whoever the hell he wants? If anyone in the history of the sport has earned it, it's him.

On a which fight is the most interesting and competitive basis? Kabayel, clearly. Dude brings a unique style matchup with his heavy emphasis on body work. Would also kill the silly Usyk is weak to dah body!!! narrative. Plus Kabayel is actually the guy on the best win streak in the HW division (outside of Usyk, of course).

At the end of the day, I just don't get all the moaning and complaining. Man just had a fight a month ago where he went into enemy territory and straight smoked a Top 3 guy coming off three stoppage wins. Put on a show and brutally ended it in 5 rounds. At 38 years old. It's been a month. If we were sitting here 6, or 8, or 12 months after Usyk had last fought and he was sitting on his ass bogarting the belts I'd understand some outrage.

And all these guys sitting around waiting to be handed a belt or a shot at the champ? That's their fault, not Usyk's. Just like Fury retiring, whining and moaning about being robbed, and then trying to jump the queue to get yet another shot at Usyk is his fault, not Usyk's. If that fight does happen it'll be Turki and the promoters' fault, not Usyk's for doing what's best for himself, his family, and the people of Ukraine by taking the biggest money/eyeballs fight.