Warren says Usyk is injured/Parker will likely defend full WBO title against Whyte-Itauma winner

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This is what I'm saying. But if he decides not to and fights someone else instead that's perfectly fine too, providing he vacates the belt first.

    He has a 30 day extension not 30 years so people need to cool their boots and stop reaching for any excuse they can to hate on one of the most honourable and fearless fighters to ever step foot into a ring whose conduct has been damn near impeccable (not directed at you)
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He gives the haters so little ammunition to hate on him they have to reach for and cling to anything they can.
     
  3. PrimoGT

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    It is because Joseph Parker has been mandatory since beating Zhang in March 2024, (which was off the back of a 4-fight come-back winning streak in 2023 that included W12 against Wilder in an upset in December 2023).
    ALREADY in March 2024, Parker was considered a very worthy challenger (& an official mandatory) but Usyk/Fury was already in place ... then a Usyk/Fury rematch was in place, So Parker was forced to wait until 2025.
    Then Parker was granted a challenge to Dubois' IBF belt (ended up in Dubois hands because Usyk failed to fight another mandatory - Hrgovic), and Dubois pulled out "sick" from the Parker at the last moment.
    Parker beat another top 10 fighter (Bakole) who came in as a last-minute substitute.

    BOTH Usyk and Dubois have had an obligation of some sort to honour with Joseph Parker all this year. But Dubois never re-scheduled a Parker fight, and Usyk simply chose a Dubois rematch over the Parker fight, already months ago.

    If Parker has to wait until 2026, it's a disgrace. None of this inactivity is doing him any good.
     
  4. PrimoGT

    PrimoGT Active Member Full Member

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    It is quite clear that the man who currently runs heavyweight boxing (Turki Al-Shikh) has his favourites too. Although the Saudi shows have done great things for Parker and Kabayel, it is the British heavyweights who seem to be given more chances. To be fair to Dubois, he earned his place with wins against Miller, Hrgovic and Joshua. But it is disapponting that the Saudi shows haven't implemented a proper elimination series.

    Instead, we are likely to see Jake Paul added to the roster.
     
  5. Kiwi Fish

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    Its definitely not the best system, but its what we have. Without the mandatories we would just have champs mucking around way more than they are currently. Fury could feasibly still be champ from the Klitschko win without the bodies enforcing their mandatories for example.

    Rankings are plain mysticism, based on money, clout, popularity, eye test etc, and only then ranked fighters they have actually fought. The only one that actually comes close to try and base their rankings on fighter's recent performances against opposition is the IBF, and they get a tonne of crap for their mandatories as a result because they normally aren't that popular or bring money and fans with them.
     
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  6. Kiwi Fish

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    Adding on to this, the WBO hasn't had their title defended since Usyk won it himself off of Joshua the first time back in 2021, nearly four years ago. I still reckon that if it were anyone else other than Usyk they would be getting criticized a lot more for the same things.

    I was also thinking that if Usyk was from the UK or US and spoke English, people would have already dug up some stupid things he would have said, or taken something he said way out of context and used that as a rod to beat him. But because he is from Ukraine, and doesn't really speak English or give interviews in English that doesn't happen.

    Same with guys like Golvokin and Lomachenko.
     
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  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with you there Serge. Let's see what the future brings.
     
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  8. NahMateNoWay

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    Whoever he wants? So another voluntary defence then. Gotcha.
    He's cleaned out the division, fought all the best, collected all the belts, cemented his legacy as undisputed, why should he be beholden in any way to the organizations for mandatory defences of those belts eh?
    It's almost like it's an obligation of becoming champ to fight the best contenders out there and the orgs decide who that is or something...
    Now I'm not saying they get it right, but if he doesn't want mandatorys, he should just drop the belt, easy.

    As for Kabayel, you're stating opinion as fact. I'm not going to get into it with you (you seem pretty worked up about it all tbh, I get it we all want our guy to get a shot), but I'll point out that if he wants money and eyeballs (and I agree it's eyeballs for the avoidance of doubt) the fight to make isn't Kabayel.
     
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  9. kirk

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    Would be a bit BS if Parker has to fight Itauma before he gets his Usyk shot.

    He will have fought literally the murderers row of boogieman before ever getting his shot.

    Underdog against Joyce when he was THE boogieman.
    Underdog against Zhang when he was a boogieman.
    Underdog against Wilder in a fight he was supposed to lose.
    Was a slight favorite against Bakole but was still a dangerous fight against a boogieman tier opponent.


    Could you imagine he then goes on to fight Itauma next. :lol:



    The boxing establishment hates Parker or something.
     
  10. kirk

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    Ya thats all fine, until you hold a belt.

    If you want to fight whoever you want, drop the belt and continue on as just the lineal champion and have no obligations.

    If hes going to continue to be a world title holder than that comes with responsibilites.

    Boxing has a lot wrong with it, and one of them is this common idea that world champions can prestige their way out of a champions duties to fight their most deserving challengers.
     
  11. Kiwi_in_America

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    Great comment, Kirk

    BTW - Andy Lee says he is 85% sure that Usyk will drop the belt
     
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  12. HistoryZero26

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    He foughts the same 3 guys in 6 world title fights and people are opening churches in his honor. You should understand the moaning and complaining.

    Its Usyks fault. Its the champs job to work through the line of contenders. Not the contenders job to eliminate each other for the champ. While Usyk inherited this situation from Fury, AJ and Wilder(the 3 ducks), Usyk has been a champ for 4 years. He has 3 interim champs. Not 1 not 2. 3. Its on him.

    Usyk has 8 fights at HW, the idea hes paid his dues "more than anyone in the history of the sport" and can fight whoever he pleases is comically disrespectful. He has not earned it. He does not get to hold the sport hostage. No he has not earned that.

    Imagine a champion having 3 title claimants and thinking a fighter has paid their dues so they can ignore them. If he paid his dues there wouldn't be 3 interim champions.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Like I said, Usyk gives the haters so little ammunition for them to hate on him they have to reach for and cling to anything they can.

    He said he had 2 more fights left before the rematch against Dubois. I know for a fact his promoter or former promoter until very recently wants him to retire and I think his manager does too so he's obviously weighing up his options and at his age and after everything he's achieved who can blame him?

    He has a 30 day extension. 30 days not 30 weeks, not 30 months, and not 30 years like the weirdo haters are acting like it is

    And yes, he absolutely has earned the right to do what he wants after everything he's achieved, the way he went about achieving it, with his impeccable conduct in and out of the ring, at almost 39 y/o in the twilight of his career with only 1, possibly 2 or 0 fights left, just as long as he vacates the belt if he so chooses not to fight J-Park and, again, it's 30 days not 30 years :facepalm:

    J-Park understands and is being very reasonable about it

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  14. Kiwi Fish

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    Parker is so fair, sensible and reasonable in his takes. I honestly think it hurts his chances of getting what he wants in the sport compared to guys like Fury.
     
  15. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bingo.
     
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