Warrior or just really protected well????????

It doesn't matter what people say. We all know the truth about Oscar.


As far as Hatton... was he ven favored? That fight was a tossup.


Pac was heavily favored against a cinderblock-bludgeoned Cotto. (Although my dumb ass lost money on this one)

 

Judah was the lineal champ, signed the fight to fight Mayweather as the Lineal champ he lost some of his belts, Mayweather took him on anyone and dominated him. Mayweather then had a fight with the Lineal Champ in Baldomir and beat him down, then he moved up fought Oscar at 154, moved back down and fought Ricky Hatton who had won a belt at 147. So far against Welterweights whom were belt holders he is 3-0, 4-0 if you add his win over Oscar.

 

yes i am through with this, but he could have fought anyone from cotto, margo or shane when all these guys are fighting each other. now he has a chance to fight shane while he is on top. the biggest one is back then when cotto won against shane and floyd won over haton and this was the biggest fight back then in 2007 but he chooses to retire rather than this. people are calling for this fight but floyd thinks cotto is not a PPV material. you could say arum himself doesn't want this but the fact is, this fight was well demanded publicly and floyd's camp just dismissed cotto as an opponent.

 

This is the thing. How come before these fights & the featherweight fights people weren't saying how **** Pacs opponents were & how he was gonna beat them easily?

 

and before and after that? judah is fairly good at welter but not elite on the level of cotto, shane or even margo. and i credit floyd with this one even if judah was coming off a loss to baldomir.

 

I agree only as far as saying that "times have changed." With that, I will say that he has one of the best (if not the best) resumes of all active fighters. For his time Pacman is one of the best (if not the best) around. I agree with you that anyone putting him up there with the greats like: Robinson, Pep, Greb, Duran, etc... are idiots. Times have changed, but people in this time can still try to act and fight like people of that time. I am a person who appreciates and values dominance of a weight division, more than "weight jumping." To me Pac's weight jumping is impressive, but not as impressive as being the best welter ever, or the best lightweight ever, or the best featherweight ever and still jumping weight. What I just mention is truely great, and Pacman has yet to achieve that. In his time, however, he is still the best (or one of the best).

 

Good post.

 

:good:deal

 

:amen its funny how things change when a fighter (not specifically pac) makes an opponent look easy.

 

Excellent point. The idiot part's a little harsh though.

 

Yeah..B hop fought DLH, Tito, and Pavlik at their weights right?

 

Can you name some boxers that only fight undefeated fighters? Please Mr. Super Smart, educate the idiots. Every fighter is apparently someone's leftover....:roll:

 

Hindsight 20/20. Yawn, if you don't wanna give Pac credit for his wins like a good Floyd nuthugger, that's one thing, but before most of his fights, no one dared say they were easy, handpicked fights. You can say whatever you want about DLH, and give him 0 credit, but he gets credit for taking it. Roach can say whatever he wants he's not fighting, he can only speculate, Pac is the one going in the ring. Clowns.

 

YOU conviniently ommit 1 little fact: Pac's unwillingness to take the best tests available 4 detecting PED'S (Randomly) which basically admits to wrongdoing!