Warrior or just really protected well????????

Agreed.

 

How many KDs did he have on a skeleton ODLH and battering him with supposedly unnatural power round after round? Thats right 0.

As for fighting Mayweather leftovers, he didnt even fight them at the same weight. He won a lineal title against a fighter who was undefeated and comfortable at that weight. ODLH was weight drained but it is still impressive to batter a HOF boxer who was 4 weight classes above you as of 1.5 years ago. It is impressive no matter what spin you put on it.

Please respond to my first post or at least this post. I would like to be enlightened where I am wrong on these points.

 

So how much credot will you give BHop for fighting Roy Jones? Exactly.

 

Hopkins isnt moving up 2 weight classes and Roy Jones is coming off a loss against inferior comp. ODLH had dominated his inferior comp(Forbes) and had competed with Floyd at JMW and yes i know Floyd should have got the UD not SD.

Very interesting that you cannot see the difference in these fights.

 

I don't want to take anything away from Pac, but I have to agree

 

does anyone know how much pac weighed on fight night against JMM, Diaz, Morales 2/3 etc, basically everyone before oscar? I was under the impression he had been coming in fight night around 140-142 anyway so the increase in weight class simply eliminated him having to dehydrate himself to make weight?

He may have had a hell of a resume pre DLH but i still think floyd's win's over DLH and hatton diminish pac's seeing as how DLH/floyd was at 154 where oscar was the champ and coming off a dominating performance against mayorga as opposed to his sub par performance against forbes much like floyd took on hatton following a dominating performance against castillo where as pac took him on following a sub par performance against lazcano. No hater can deny those simple observations, especially when pac's own trainer has admitted to dlh being past it when pac fought him and hatton never having been a very good fighter to begin with.

Cotto is the only legitimate win that I give pac credit for since morales 2, everything else was already done before by floyd and lets not even mention diaz since as others have said, pac could have picked a more formidable title holder and instead chose diaz.

in my opinion, if you give pac more credit than floyd for his wins against dlh and hatton considering the circumstances when each fought them, than you are indeed a *******. Especially if you catapulted him to top 10-15 all time based primarily on those wins and if you take them away all you are left with is the cotto win. Some might say cotto was well past it and i might agree to a certain extent but I still give pac major props for that fight. Cotto is my favorite fighter and to see him battered like that was saddening but pac simply had his number.

 

Everyone knows MAB was decent at best by the time he fought Manny again. Oscar, it's my opinion, that he was ****ered at the weight. He weighed 147 on fight night...that is absurd. Erik was at the tail end of his career, and that's not my opinion, that's a fact. Cotto, Hatton, Barrera I, Marquez II? ...Amazing.

 

You mean Oscar's subpar performance where he won 11 or 12 rounds against Forbes? Also, Hatton was coming off giving the #2 ranked JWW, Paulie, a beating not the subpar performance against Lazcano which he incidentally dominated besides 1 round. Revisionist history is beautiful sometimes.

 

so why did floyd fought oscar who is a shane mosley leftover? why would he fight jmm who is a chris john and pac's leftover? why would he fight judah who was a baldomir leftover? why did he not fought cotto back then who was not somebody's leftover. :good

 

protected since 130 bwahahaha

so they protect him by putting him in there with DLH who was supposed to crush him, Hatton the best 140lber for a decade (who was undefeated at 140) and Cotto a top 3 welter who leaves all of his opponents battered and bruised? Add to that the Mayweather fight which would've happened so soon after Cotto...you're a bunch of ****ing idiots

 

Pac's resume isn't at all bad if ATG's Guzman and Campbell are the only fighters he's been accused of ducking.

 

Okay, now the Pacquiao backers are just repeating themselves.

 

You can say Pac is protected if that's what you believe. But when Pac steps into that ring, Pac's only protection is Pac. It's hard to match Pac's resume with any current fighters.

Anyone who believes Pac's success is due to protection, why aren't there more current fighters with his resume? Is it really ducking when you choose to fight guys like De La Hoya (before everyone claimed he was shot AFTER the fight), Hatton and Cotto over Guzman and Campbell?

Had Pac chosen to fight guys like Campbell and Guzman, he'd be accused of being protected even more for avoiding Hatton and Cotto. You can always find something negative to say about an accomplished fighter given you hate him enough.

 

Are you implying Oscar wasn't?