Was 2009 Manny Pacquiao 1 of those special fighters like 1994 RJJ & 1989 Sweet Pea?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Jul 29, 2011.


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  1. horst

    horst Guest

    Yet again with SDS, a little boxing knowledge and a little objectivity would go a long way.

    So because Hatton got wobbled by Lazcano, he was a poorer fighter post-Mayweather.

    Well pre-Mayweather, Hatton was dropped by the great Eamonn Magee and put in trouble by Luis Collazo.

    Therefore, by SDS logic :nut, MAYWEATHER FOUGHT A WORSE VERSION OF HATTON THAN COLLAZO FOUGHT AND COLLAZO FOUGHT A WORSE VERSION OF HATTON THAN MAGEE FOUGHT.

    Foolish, transparent ***** logic exposed again. A guy getting wobbled once in a fight he wins easily means nothing, especially in this case as Hatton had been rocked and dropped before in his career anyway.

    :smoke
     
    horst, Jul 30, 2011
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  2. Pacman-Forever

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    What I also wanted to point out is the phrase: "He was not anymore the same... since blah blah blah" This phrase is a Gay excuse. It didn't exist in the boxing community before. The very first boxer who keeps on saying (or perhaps originate) this phrase were the Mayweathers. When floyd was left with no choice but the demands of the boxing world to fight Mosley, Cotto and Margarito during their "primes", he immediately retired for unknown reasons. And when the result of these trio were looping Cotto>Mosley>Margarito>Cotto, he came out of vacation and announced to the world, what's the use of fighting these people. They were not anymore the same (though he fought later Mosley). This means that the boxing community could not anymore demand for Floyd vs Margarito or Floyd vs Cotto because they were not anymore the same. Sadly, most fanatics are following these lines nowadays.
     
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  3. horst

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    And of course, everyone was on Hatton's nuts after he achieved the 2nd best win of his career in the fight after Lazcano, when FMS guided him to the first stoppage win ever achieved over Paulie Malignaggi.

    Fact: Pac beat a Hatton coming off an extremely dominant win over one of the top fighters in the division. This is simply a fact.
     
    horst, Jul 30, 2011
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  4. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes. It was the rare momentum that special fighters gets and it happens once every 20 or so years. Pac has that intangible and it may last for another year or 2.
     
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  5. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Since I believe Pac boxed the most beautiful against ODLH which happened Dec 2008, only to wow the world by defeating Hatton and Cotto via sensational KO/TKO the next year, then yes, I would have to agree that Pac peaked during this era.
     
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  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    putting pac on the same level as the best jones and pea

    not buying it
     
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  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Negative..this post is invalid and claims things I said that I NEVER SAID..

    First off Popkins I gave my post, opinion, and an excellent fact to back my statement.

    You just get butt hurt when someone talks about manny pac..probably should get his 4um off your face really...

    anyways to the topic..

    NEVER SAID LAZCANO WAS A POOR FIGHTER...BUT ANY BOXING FAN KNOWS BY THE TIME LAZCANO FOUGHT HATTON HE WASN'T ANYTHING LIKE THE BOXER HE HAD BEEN:deal

    Any fighter can be dropped man and Hatton fought Eamonn in 02 before he was on top...

    Ya dummy, I never mentioned Floyd other than that he was the one who made Hatton old...

    You grasping and reaching Popkins but ya dumba$$ just got owned again..

    u really need a lesson in how to debate because your all over the place...:deal

    You put words in posts that someone doesnt say...u dont state much of any good facts..

    your a horrible poster with nothing to back up your opinion..

    next one cuz Popkins is too easy to own..:deal
     
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  8. Hoshi

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    Hes a very special fighter. The Cotto and Hatton wins were excellent.
     
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  9. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    getting beaten up over 10 rounds and knocked out is worse for your punch resisitance than getting stopped in 2 numbnuts
     
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  10. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because I was replying to the guys that said Floyd wouldn't have beaten him. The reason I even brought him up in the first place was to show you guys is he wasn't as invicinble as you think since he wasn't even favored to beat Floyd. I guess Floyd is in the Toy and Pea category his whole career
     
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  11. Pacman-Forever

    Pacman-Forever Member Full Member

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    Did Floyd win all 10 rounds? Watch the replay and come back to me.
     
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  12. Pacman-Forever

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    You mean this is better for you?
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    So it's better to lie inside the ring with the same (dying) breathing which I thought Hatton's throat was separated? Wow, how I wish you were the ones being hit in that second round lying the canvass so you will feel what Hatton felt.
     
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  13. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he lost 2 rounds and he was beating Hatton's ass in the clinches
     
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  14. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch it is very well documented, that getting hit over and over for 12 rounds is worse for your brain than gettign knocked out in a round or two. I didn't make this up. There have been studies on this dickhead.
     
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  15. Pacman-Forever

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    Then your previous statement was nonesense. Who would believe you then?
     
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