was a kostya tszyu

I am sorry but Tszyu has never beaten any hall of fame fighters that werent light years removed from their prime. The best fighter he ever beat (in their prime) was either Sharmba Mitchell or Zab Judah; depending on who you liked better. He never beat a great fighter(in their prime), I think he loses to DlH, Mosley and possibly Cotto. I think a Cotto-Tszyu fight would have been great; though I think Tszyu would take him out.

 

In direct response to Rock0052's statement,

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My God you are an intellectual lightweight, Muddy. You miserably perpetrate as some astute analysis on this forum when essential you're nothing more than a keyboard charlatan.

You're talking loud but you're not saying anything.

Not only are you insane but a delusional ADD recipient desperately hanging on your mothers titty.

You have a hard on for Judah and Mitchell. Why? When their names never once came into the equation in any of my post. Now show me where I mentioned Judah and Mitchell? However, once again, you deliberately avoided the original question which was

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as opponents who would likely beat Tszyu.

Now you have plagiarized my terminology and use of the word "disservice". What's the problem Mud, having a difficult time being original?

Simple question: Do styles makes fights, yes or no?

Immaterial to the question put before you for the hundredth time.

Tszyu was handedly defeated by Phillips and in all practical purposes the probability of Tszyu losing to DLH, PBF, SSM and Tito is greater than any opponent he ever faced in his career.

Now did the left side of your disordered brain comprehend this rather simple information?
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Tszyu was allegedly a better fighter who never faced DLH, PBF, SSM or Tito! His career is built up on top fighters he never fought.

 

Let's look at it this way, when Mosley and De La Hoya fought each other in 2000, shane made the jump from lightweight to welterweight. If he knew in his own mind that he can beat Kostya, he would have fought him at 140 and then move up to welterweight when the time is right and make a fight with de la hoya seem more important. Oscar and Shane both knew that a fight with Kostya at 140 would be a huge risk, that's why De La Hoya targeted the old chavez cuz he knew it would draw more money. In a way, Kostya was similiar to Aaron Pryor because his resume is not that strong but, he was avoided by fighters due to the fact that they knew fighting him could break them due to the risk factor.

 

tszyu fought that same old chavez and how can you knock mosley for skipping 140 to go to a higher weight class at 147 against ODLH who is naturally bigger than him & beating DLH at that !

Mosley would have destroyed tsyzu

 

My God, and you're an intellectual heavyweight I suppose, with your misuse of tense and possessive noun - how can I "perpetrate as some astute analysis"? Perhaps you mean "perpetrate as some astute analyst"?:yep

And you've also misused the form of the adjective "essential". Add another couple of letters to the end of that (namely 'l' and 'y') and you've got yourself the correct form ie: "essentially" :yep

Keyboard charlatan indeed :rofl looks like you done tripped over yourself in your haste to come across as someone who knows what they're talking about, eh sucka? :yep

Indeed you are you poor fellow, indeed you are. Keep trying though, you are the little engine who could!

Now now semenflow, what did I tell you about trying to sound like you know what you're talking about :nono

Seriously pal, I know you like to kid on you're a literary genius, but all you've posted is a load of **** and wind - and highlighted how very little you actually do know (see the first quote in this post :yep ).

Now you're trying to claim context over what I'm discussing? If you can't back up the crap you post, just give it up, don't try to rewrite the subject matter.

I'm glad you boiled it down to this though:

"Tszyu was handedly defeated by Phillips and in all practical purposes the probability of Tszyu losing to DLH, PBF, SSM and Tito is greater than any opponent he ever faced in his career."

What you're doing is, like I said earlier, basing your opinion on the Phillips loss.

If that is your measure of Tszyu's abilities, you obviously believe that Phillips would beat everyone Tszyu beat.

Like I said, you focus on that instead of taking all factors into account, which pretty much indicates you're not objective, and therefore should save yourself the time of writing pompous, longwinded rubbish when your motive is apparent.

BTW, my apparent plagiarising of 'your terminology'?:rofl

It's a simple trick used to keep idiots like yourself on track - using words and terminology they are already familiar with so they don't have to think too hard and tax their little brains. I see it worked with you, you noticed 'your word' straight away! :happy

Here's some more terminology you should be quite familiar with - you're a dumb mother****er who suffers delusions of grandeur :yep

I expect yet another longwinded post from you that does nothing but huff and puff, but doesn't blow any houses down - I suggest you check your spelling and grammar before you post it though, so as not to make yourself look like a ****ing pompous fool again :yep

 

I really have to say Kostya's victory over Judah although well deserved, had a lot to do with Judah getting way too full of himself thinking he had Tszyu beat before he actually did. Kostya was backpedaling throughout round one and two getting caught by nearly everything Judah had thrown. Judah begins to celebrate, and then Kostya promtly KO's him. Good job Kostya bad job Judah.

 

Tell me truthfully, have you seen this fight in it's entirety :huh

You think Judah was winning the second round before the stoppage?

 

I disagree - Judah only actually landed 3 clean punches on Tszyu in rd 1 - I actually watched it again yesterday. The first one was the uppercut when Judah was on the ropes that got Tszyu backpedalling, but of all the punches Judah threw after that, only 2 actually landed, and of those 2, only 1 was effective, and it was when he had Tszyu on the ropes.

It's a common belief that Judah eased up because he got cocky and started to cruise in rd 2, but if you watch the last 30 seconds of rd 1, you'll see Tszyu get Judah with a nice bodyshot, and it is from that point on that Judah became leery of Tszyu - he felt his power and didn't like it.

So he was staying away from Tszyu in rd 2, not cruising, and he didn't even manage to do that very well.

 

It's such a huge misconception that Tszyu was losing that fight before the stoppage. I even thought that way til I watched it this year some time... But if you do watch it, Tszyu had him on the run after that body shot and round 2 he adjusted to catch him. Two rounds to time one of the fastest WW and one of the fastest P4P... yeah, what an overrated bum he is. :nut