Was Aaron Pryor a better fighter than Pasual Perez P4P prime for prime?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Pryor was rated 35th in a list of the best P4P fighters of the last 50 years by ring magazine in 1996, Perez was rated 36th in the same list, which of these fighters was better in their respective divisions and primes?

    Pryor info
    Quality of competition: 7
    Bouts v top 50 fighters: 2
    Why he`s on this list: ''The Hawk'' fought with an intensity unmatched even by the other greats of the early 80`s.
    What he could have done to better his ranking: Just said no.

    Perez info
    Quality of competition: 6
    Bouts v top 50 fighters: 0
    Why he`s here: Unbeaten in first 51 fights; dominated the flyweight division in the 50`s
    What he could have done to better his ranking: Worn elevator shoes; at 5', he wasn`t going to win the bantamweight title.
     
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  2. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is only some ones opinion. Mark why are you stuck on this magazine again like when you first posted?
     
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  3. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No caps is unusual for you. I'd go with Perez.
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Thought I`d put a new slant on things by asking about the fighters on the list compare to the fighter ranked one place beneath them, got a few good responses on threads and find it interesting, I`m having another look at each of these fighters as I do a thread on them, I really don`t rate Pryor at all.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    No, Perez is the greater fighter.
     
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  6. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't know. Why?
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I just wonder if people agree with either fighter`s ranking in this list and put those two because one came right above the other.
     
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  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m gonna disqualify myself from voting ...because I’ve seen Pryor....and I’ll always rank a fighter with available film over one without any
     
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  9. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Guess I’d have to go with Pryor. 10 straight title defenses vs 9 for Perez. Not much in it there, but he holds the better single win by a long shot and for my money is easily the better head to head force at their respective weight classes.

    Of course Perez fought in a far deeper division historically, but that’s offset by the fact that he fought in one of that division’s weakest ever eras. His best wins being over an old, past prime Yoshio Shirai and Sadao Yaoita (whom he also lost to).
     
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  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no one who can objectively chime in and confidently say "Yes" Perez was better with such limited film available on him.
     
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  11. Amos-san

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    Pascual Perez's weeks in McDonalds...
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Pascual Nicolás Pérez (May 4, 1926 – January 22, 1977) was an Argentine flyweight boxer. Pérez was born in Tupungato in the Mendoza Province of Argentina, he went on to make history by becoming Argentina's first world boxing champion.
     
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