Was Age a Factor in the Outcome of Hopkins-Calzaghe?

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  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets hope it isn't Jones or Tarver. I can see Calzaghe stepping into the 90s LHW division proper.
     
  2. BigReg

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    Nard was able to make Joe look bad because he's still able to throw that straight right, he was able to move effectively for the first few rounds, and he was holding the whole fight. Age played a factor, because Nard wasn't able to put his punches together, his legs tired after the 5th round, and he ran out of gas. Read this article for a good explanation of why age played a factor

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=raskin_eric&id=3355783

    Here's an excerpt

     
  3. T.S.

    T.S. T.Stout Full Member

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    Being 43 years old in boxing can't be considered an advantage.
    In that sense it was a factor.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    That was also the round where he faked getting hit with a low blow and got an extra 3 minutes of rest.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I have to tell you - I would love for him to shut Tarver's mouth. How about Pavlik next, then Tarver both in the states, before taking Roy back to Wales?

    That would be nice.
     
  6. Shane_Erich

    Shane_Erich Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not taking anything away from Calzaghe's performance, he was able to do what Wright and Tarver weren't and beat Hopkins, but anytime you are 43, age is a factor.
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Give it up.

    What you posted was a perfect explanation of what happened in the fight, but this kid is far to dense to understand or admit to it.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Bottom line.
     
  9. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Bhop beat his ass with one hand when he had the energy. Bhop at 36 could actually throw a left hook...double and triple. You are certified. Calzaghe beat an old great. Nothing else. Its a good win, but not the same as beating a prime bhop or Roy etc etc.
     
  10. maximumsg

    maximumsg Active Member Full Member

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    You must be special to think that hopkins would not destroy joe if he was the same age. Hell And i'd bet my house if hopkins was 36 and joe 43 it would have ended inside a minate and thats a fact joe is no where near a great fighter if he can't embarrase a 43 year old fighter. Hopkins would be back in jail if he was same age because he would have killed poor little slapping joe.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    You could say both people are a bit past their prime. While Hopkins was older and should win the poll, it must be pointed out that Hopkins is used to fighting a style that suits older fighters, which is why he can still fight on the world-class level at his age.

    Calzaghe style is a younger man's style that relies heavily on speed, stamina, and quickness which tend to drop off around age 34-35.

    There is no doubt Calzaghe won more rounds. You could say Hopkins was 5 years past it, but I saw a noticable drop off in Clazaghe’s game. He was much better vs Lacy and Kessler.

    I think a prime Clazaghe beats a prime Hopkins the same way Roy Jones, but with more difficulty. Hopkins had issues with speed and punch out put.
     
  12. McGrain

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    You are right - he didnt' have him panicing after three, but I scored all of these rounds to Bernard with and additional point for the KD. Calzaghe showed heart in pulling things around, but it took him an age to revocer mentally from that perfectly timed shot. Three rounds is one quarter of the fight.

    No. Calzaghe regained his composure and started to win rounds/apply genius pressure. But the genius pressure took a toll. By moving Hopkins around the ring, by staying constantly in the pocket and staying aggressive, Joe forced Bernard to take many, many more steps than he wanted to.

    Against Wright and Tarver, Hopkins comletely dominated the tempo of the fight, utterly. Here, he was only able to drag Cazlaghe of HIS tempo by about a third. It was Joe who controlled the fight in the no-man's land between what they both wanted to do.

    A younger Hopkins WOULD NOT have tired out as quickly in this situation. On my card he needs only one more round and he wins. On my card, I'm certain he would have won if he had an extra 5/8% in his legs. His age was an enormous factor, and, in conjunction with the fact that Calzaghe is a very good ring general (though maybe less good than I thought) this was the deciding factor.

    Tempo. Please try to build a bridge. Age was a factor.

    You have a lovely way with words. I bet your very brave in person, too.
     
  13. Galileo Galilei

    Galileo Galilei Active Member Full Member

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    I surprised some are still trying to say Hopkins age had nothing to do with his loss. :-(

    They probably don't really believe that nonsense themselves.

    Probably just messing around. Or maybe a huge, blind, loyal JC fan. Or maybe an extra 21st chromosome is involved.

    Noone can really believe a boxer's age isn't a factor when the guy is 40 ****ing 3 years old.

    Can they?
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

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    I don't know how anyone can say that ... Both guys aren't that far apart in age at this point in time in their careers.

    Both are veterans and have been in the game for quite sometime ... both were long reigning champions at their respected divisions.

    Age didn't play a factor ... it was a matter of Calzaghe's workrate toward the end of the fight ... and Hopkins drop off in production.

    There was nothing different about Hopkins from 2001 to the fight with Calzaghe ... the same goes for Calzaghe.

    Calzaghe just out hustled him in a very ugly fight !!
     
  15. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Age was a factor.

    Hopkins was past his best.