Was Ali a Klitschko level clincher?

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  1. Can I box

    Can I box Active Member banned Full Member

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    The whole point of it being bad is Klitschko used to clinch to try to make sure he’s never in an actual fight throughout the whole match. He wants to punch and grab his way to dominant victory.

    Although Ali clinched a lot he also traded a lot, let his hands go much more and embraced the times he had to exchange.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Yes

    But Klitscko was clinching and pushing much smaller men

    and he was a useless ugly robot

    Ali had poise and was a titan in the ring. A total badass.
     
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  3. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali clinching? apparently you never seen the ali vs Frazier fights and that was all Ali doing the holding. At least in the Klitschko Povetkin both were initiating clinches.
     
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  4. Roughhouse

    Roughhouse Active Member Full Member

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    "Useless Ugly Robot" was an epic shot.

    I may start using it as my Username on other boards.
     
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  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Of course he was. So was Borenard Hopkins. Except when they clinched it was called ‘crafty’ and ‘tricky’ etc.
     
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  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes, of course I've seen Ali Frazier. It's still watchable and recognisable as a boxing match, not whatever the hell Wlad vs Povetkin was.

    Wlad wasn't just clinching Povetkin, he was trying to wrestle him and damage him by pressing all his weight on his back. And it was nearly unwatchable.
     
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  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Hallo Mr Luis Fernando.

    Who is the current undisputed HW champion, what does he weigh, and what weightclass did he formerly compete at?
     
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  8. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali, Holmes, and Lewis set the standard for clinching. When Ali was tired or the least bit hurt he would literally shove the ref trying to break them aside and pull the opponent back into the clinch.
     
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  9. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Aside from the size Foreman was a far better finishe than Wlad, Frazier was small but offensively far superior to anybody Wlad beat during the worst era in heavyweight history.
     
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  10. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only toward the end
     
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  11. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes didn't clinch as much as the two others tbh
     
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  12. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad has more knockouts and a higher knockout rate then Foreman as well as being able to knockout larger foes no reason to suggest Foreman is a better finisher or punches harder
     
  13. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For this thread YES! Ali clinched a lot especially in his best wins against Frazier and Foreman which many people ignore while criticizing Wlad for doing the same thing.
     
  14. OddR

    OddR Active Member Full Member

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    Both Ali and Wlad had certain A side advantages in general when they were world title contending. Not fair to call it out one way and not the other.
     
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  15. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    People loved to put on their rose tinted glasses when they talk about Ali.

    Whether that is to do with his in ring performances or his life outside.
     
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