Was Artur Grigorian a good fighter?

I'm not narrow minded I'm just not blind and I can read and from what I read you cannot spell. But that is not the point. 90% of the forum believes Castillo is great? Did you pull that number out of a hat or was it a more complicated process? But alright, lets say he is - so what! He never fought Grigorian. He was beating Corrales until Corrales pulled out a one in a million shot aided by some mouthpiece shenanigans. In the rematch he swiftly corrected things. And this Corrales beat Freitas. Knocked him out actually. And Freitas easily beat Grigorian. Your boy never even fought the best of his era. When he got close to doing so he was shooed away like a fly. Casamayor top 50 p4p all time? Please stop. He was rated similarly as Pacquiao 12 years ago? Just five years ago Keith Thurman was a p4p top 10 rated fighter. Today, both are irrelevant. Again, what do de la Hoya and Crawford have to do with this, I do not know. The last bit you wrote unfortunately needs to be deciphered by a cryptologist and I dont have the funds for such things

 

The result of the fight previous to the Freitas fight was very debateable.

 

And the relevance between Ward and Grigorian is?
Ward fought all over the States,he was a 2 weight undefeated champion.he beat;
Kessler no1
Bika no3
Abraham no6
Froch no3
Dawson no3
Barrera no9
Kovalev no2
Kovalev no1

Grigorian never beat a ring ranked opponent,he met just one and was clearly beaten.

 

plenty of WBO bums did Grigio face

 

Lets not talk about spelling anymore. You can create any survey you want. Just remember just because someone isnt a legend doesnt mean hes a bum. And even if you did create a survey with such unfair parameters I guarantee many would still choose the bum vote.
The Castillo knockout was a "one in a million" shot because Corrales had been down twice in the round and was close to going out when he landed the stunner. Castillo was over a pound and a half in the rematch, those are just excuses. And just stop bringing up random fighters that have nothing to do with the thread.
Maybe Grigorian did come to the fight with Freitas with no real intention of winning. The important thing is that Grigorian doesnt have any wins against great fighters. Whether he was ducked or not is irrelevant. You dont become a legend by not fighting people. Mayweather, Freitas, Corrales Casamayor theyre all guys that would kick Grigorians ass. One did, anyway. You mean Barrios lost to Joan Guzman? A flash in the pan that didnt amount to much? What does that have to do with anything? Maybe Guzman and Grigorian could have been great fighters under different circumstances. Perhaps even legendary, if I may. The point is that today, in this world they are not

 

Grigorian never beat a Ring Ranked fighter.He was a protected WBO fighter
Ward beat 8!
Nobody agrees with you , I wonder why you never cotton on to that?
You're like Captain Queeg in the Caine Mutiny,"they were all against me"LOL

 

The truth is Grigorian was another protected fighter from Germany who faced plenty of WBO bums. Once he went outside his home town and faced a real fighter he got beaten up

 

In his record, Grigorian barely has 2 or 3 fights won against more or less known rivals, I agree that he never fought against a top 10, and the title he won was won vacant against an past prime unranked fighter.

 

Ward v Dawson 2012
"Ward entered as the world super middleweight champion and fifth ranked fighter pound-for-pound according to The Ring Magazine. Dawson, a 2.8-to-1 betting underdog, entered as the world light heavyweight champion and tenth fighter pound-for-pound by the same publication.Ward W tko10th rd!

Ward v Bika.

"Both Fighters used rough tactics and both fought evenly through out the 12 rounds. Bika had a significantly higher work rate whilst it was Ward who landed with more accuracy. The fight went on during the Super Six super middleweight tournament, but this fight was not included in the tournament. Andre Ward was a participant of the tournament and was scheduled to fight Andre Dirrel, however with Dirrel dropping out due to injury he sufferred against Abraham and no replacement, Ward was allowed to fight Bika outside of the tournament with Andre Ward's WBA title on the line."
Ward W 12rds dec Bika ranked no5

Ward v Kessler

• Mikkel Kessler 42-1 (32 KOs) vs. Andre Ward 20-0 (13 KOs)
• Kessler entered as the 1 super middleweight in the world according to The Ring Magazine. Ward, a 2.2/1 betting underdog, was ranked 9th by the same publication. Following the victory, Ward was vaulted to the # 1 position and Kessler fell to 4th.
• Fight was part of the Super Six World Boxing Classic tournament by Showtime. Kessler entered as the co-favorite with Arthur Abraham to win the tournament

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• Mikkel Kessler 42-1 (32 KOs) vs. Andre Ward 20-0 (13 KOs)
• Kessler entered as the # 1 super middleweight in the world according to The Ring Magazine. Ward, a 2.2/1 betting underdog, was ranked 9th by the same publication. Following the victory, Ward was vaulted to the # 1 position and Kessler fell to 4th.
• Fight was part of the Super Six World Boxing Classic tournament by Showtime. Kessler entered as the co-favorite with Arthur Abraham to win the tournament

 

Nobody will ever replace MVC for the title of "Worst Poster in History." But, I will be damned if Ra's Al-Ghul doesn't try.

 

He never beat anybody and fought only in protected Germany

 

No I didnt specify in which division Dawson was ranked only that he WAS ,here is my post.

Ward fought all over the States,he was a 2 weight undefeated champion.he beat;
Kessler no1
Bika no3
Abraham no6
Froch no3
Dawson no3
Barrera no9
Kovalev no2
Kovalev no1

Grigorian had 39 fights ,only 4 were outside his adopted home of Germany and only one outside Europe.

 

That is a perfect summary of why your opinion carries zero weight around here.

 

He was no 3 at LHvy moving up to Champion as recognized by The Ring I have simply copied the Rings ratings. I havent placed anybody anywhere.
In every post you make you are exposed as a complete fool who has no grasp of boxing or any idea how to evaluate a fighters capabilities.
Your absurd bias towards a selection of European boxers ,Grigorian ranked above McFarland,Welsh,DeJesus , and Canzoneri ,Lazslo Papp top ten p4p and top ten at middleweight continue to make you a laughing stock here.
You have a certain value as comedy relief but your opinions will never be taken seriously here.You are the court jester of the Forum but one who is unaware of his role!

 

During his so called championchip reign he fought almost exclusively in Germanyif I remember correctly.Opposition there was mostly WBO bums.