Was Barrera out of prime, or were Pac and JMM just better?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by H ., Dec 2, 2007.


  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Morales imo was more adaptable to deal with different styles.
    Morales was a better technical boxer than MAB....imo he could have made it alot easier on himself in his fights with MAB had he chosen to rely more on boxing from a distance.

    As it was, they went to War three times and in reality I dont put much credence in the official results.....each fight but the 2nd imo ( I thought Morales clearly won) could have gone either way.

    This is how I was the trilogy.....
    MAB won the rist fight....
    Morales won the 2nd.....
    ...and the third was a draw on my scorecard!

    Morales and MAB have just the fight styles and attitudes toward eachother to make each an everytime they fight a classic.....
    If they fought 100 times they's split them down the middle with a few draws along the way.

    ....but as I said, I rate Morales higher because imo Morales was a better boxer who adapted better to different styles!
     
  2. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If we talk about FANTASY world of "If" , " would have " or "could have" anything you want to say is possible. Even if you say, if mab fought pacman earlier... if Hamed fought.... it would have... SINCE IT NEVER HAPPENED AND ITS LIKE A FANSTASY IDEA, YOU CAN JUSTIFY ANYTHING and YOU COULD EVEN BELIEVE IN YOUR ANALYSIS.

    pac would have been floored if he fought mab in his prime.. if you like you can even imagine that pac was demolished in round 1, you can imagine it was pac who kissed the canvass 3 times when he fought jmm. Moreles could have had 2-1 vs pac if .... Like I said these are ALL FANTASY's which never happened.

    If you want to go back to the WORLD OF REALITY HERES REALITY FOR YOU!!!

    PACMAN VS MORALES 2-1
    Two convincing and divastating win on both occasions.
    PACMAN VS MAB
    2-0

    If you are not happy with REALITY. Pls go back to the WORLD OF FANTASY
    What round do you wish pac to go down on his pretend win from PAC?!
    Do you want a dramatic KO on the 12 round? or 5 rounds of schooling then the 6th round pac quits?!

    YOU are free to give your FANTASIES with a dose of your OWN Justification of would have.. could have... and " IF "

    Believe me if you enjoy these kind of WOULD HAVE . COULD HAVE! Go and visit marcobarrera.com. You will enjoy thier company.

    Now, IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE WORLD OF REALITY. :deal Wake up and look forward to PAC vs JMM2. :hi:
     
  3. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As far as I am concerned, Barrera was at the pinnacle of his career when Pac beaten him.

    However the Barrera who fought JMM/Pac in the recent months was clearly a faded version.
     
  4. Lefty Supremacy

    Lefty Supremacy Member Full Member

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    I would say that he was out of his prime. The trilogy with Morales destroyed both their primes.
     
  5. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In terms of greatness:

    MAB
    Morales/Pac
    JMM (far 3rd)

    In terms of H2H:

    Pac
    JMM/MAB
    Morales
     
  6. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    You can't do it that way. MAB took 2 out of 3 from EM, but I think EM would take about 8 out of 10 against Pac Prime for Prime :deal
     
  7. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MAB took 2 razor thin, highly disputed win out of 3 from EM. :roll:

    EM narrowly beat a badly cut Pac who was deprived of his choice of gloves. :roll: Scores were 115-113.

    Now...:hey

    Pac KTFO a P4P#2 MAB from pillar to post. :yep

    Pac KTFO Morales 2X. :yep

    Pac totally dominated MAB, 118-109 :yep
     
  8. JAM Killer

    JAM Killer Coming Through. Full Member

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    Pac is just better.
     
  9. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Pac beats Mab every time, the Mab that showed up against Hamed still wouldnt be able to beat Pac.

    Just look at the 2nd fight, Mab did the same thing but Pac wasnt stupid and try to force anything or lunge like a dumbass like Hamed did, Mab beat Hamed by taking advantage of Hamed's mistakes.

    As for Mab and JMM its evenly split prime for prime.
     
  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    People fail to realize that MAB gradually mutated his style as his grew older. In the Tapia fight it was evident that he no longer would posses the agression he once used that made him such a star. He had every oppurtunity to KO Tapia because he was faster, bigger, stronger and more skilled but was reluctnat to go all out.

    If you watch earlier Barrera fights he was a demon with power and agression who fought from any angle, pressing forward or stepping back unleasing punch after punch overwhelming and punishing his opponents.

    Against Pac he wasn't that type of fighter anymore, aside having the Big Bear fire distraction and his injured thumb, he was also not the same Barrera who had fought Morales and Hamed. He was slower, more hesitant, and lacked that killer's instinct.
     
  11. Quik

    Quik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In is prime MAB wouls surely have beaten JMM.

    Morales-Barrera should do it one more time.
     
  12. nighthunter

    nighthunter Active Member Full Member

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    :good I agree PAC is too much for barrera:lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  13. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    Barrera was still in his prime when he first fought Pac but already out of his old self in the second, Marco wouldn't beat a Pac, prime or not. A prime Barrera would easily beat a better JMM.