Was Bobby Chacon a great fighter?

I guess it depends. The word great gets overused a little too much these days. He was very good and could have possibly been great but I think he wasn't quite there. Definitely a warrior and fun to watch. His career was a lot of fun.

 

Exactly ^.....the original "Schoolboy".

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How did you score that one? A lot of people had it for Boza.

 

Thx!

 

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I thought Boza edged it.

Recently, I watched it an scored it 114-111 Boza.

This link is an NBC replay and they show how the three judges scored it.

The scores were all over the place, but amazingly the judges favored Chacon in the middle rounds, which I scored all for Boza.

In these rounds, Chacon was throwing a lot off the ropes but almost everything was missing. Chacon did slip a lot of shots off the ropes, but Boza landed all the telling shots in those rounds and had Chacon on the ropes, for the most part.

It looked to me they could have stopped it at the end of round 9 or anytime during round 10 as Chacon was bleeding all over the place. The doctor checked Chacon at the end of two rounds before that and more than once said "I am giving you one more round."

Chacon showed amazing heart to keep going and drop Boza in the 12th round.

But, amazingly he didn't need the last round knockdown as after 11 rounds, two judges had Chacon ahead by one point and the third had him ahead by four points!!!!!!!!!!. So the worst Chacon would have gotten was a split Draw, provided he stayed upright in the last round.

Bad judging, in my opinion. And the referee and doctor let Chacon go on when most would have stopped it.

 

I've been pondering the notion of greatness while answering a similar thread on Danny Lopez. It seems like Lopez, Chacon and Gatti are of a similar level in terms of achievement but also excitement. My argument is that although none of them were certifiably great fighters, they all developed an important historical legacy in boxing because they contributed to so many great fights. So, in terms of skills and achievement, none of them were "great" but their contributions to the sport by the excitement they brought to it and the number of genuinely great fights they were involved in is a different kind of greatness.

 

Excellent summation. I thought Boza won for sure but with the greatness of the fight and the Chacon story there was not much of an outcry. Amazing efforts from both.

 

I would agree. A very good fighter but known more to be involved in great fights rather than being a great fighter a la Gatti.

 

Bobby Chacon had fine boxing skills during the early part of his career, which were quite evident in his victory over Danny "Little Red" Lopez. He also had quite a bit of talent. But he seemed to lack dedication, which resulted in him having trouble making weight for his second bout with Ruben Olivares. In a weakened state, Bobby was stopped by Olivares in an early round during that bout. He broke up with his manager-trainer, Joe Ponce, shortly after the bout.

After severing ties with Ponce, Bobby went on to become more of a brawler. Yes, he still was a fine fighter and went on to have a notable career, but probably should have done better.

- Chuck Johnston

 

I believe that Bobby Chacon had far more talent than Danny "Little Red" Lopez or Arturo Gatti.

- Chuck Johnston

 

Talent, yes, I'd agree. Achievement?
Not such a difference.