Was boxing promoter Don King really as unscrupulous as he was portrayed in the film Rocky V?

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  1. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Well-Known Member booted Full Member

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    I thought it was a decent rendition of everything I have seen and read of him

    Mark....you have got to slow down on threads most of us are older and knowledged but like to think through and marinate on the topics
     
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You say that....but....when the King guys had the belt, you wouldn’t very likely get a title shot unless during negotiations you were willing to yield promotional control to King, in order to get your desired shot.
     
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  3. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean besides running illegal rackets and stomping a person to death on the street? Sounds like nothing wrong there to me.
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, I'm so glad that never happened before King arrived on the scene and I'm thrilled it's been all but eliminated today.

    I can't wait for Bud Crawford's voluntary defenses against Danny Garcia and Adrien Broner.
     
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    PhillyPhan69 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t believe I was or did say that this only happened under king? I merely responded to someone who said they would not have King promote them if they were a fighter. I basically said that was easier said than done during that days landscape, not that it did or didn’t exist apart from him.
     
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  6. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is blatantly disingenuous. He didn't just kick the guy... He was STOMPING on his head multiple times. The policeman who arrived on the scene said he'd never seen someone take a beating on the ground like that. That was hardly a kick to the head.. and then guy just happened to die. That was about as disingenuous summary his role as you could get. The only reason he got off was because of King's connections and because he claimed self defense. He claimed the guy attacked him and came looking for him and they started fighting and the fighting was by mutual consent. It was King who went looking for the guy and to settle things. It may have started out as mutual combat, but once the guy was on the ground and King was soccer ball kicking him and stomping on his head... that's a murder charge and conviction 95% of the time.... nor would I claim somebody who did that did "nothing wrong in his life"
     
  7. Colonel Sanders

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    All this disinformation is part of the racist plot against Don. Hillary Clinton would never get her picture taken with another murderer.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For God's sake. Do you know anything about Cleveland and the mob wars that went on during the 60s and 70s? HUNDREDS of people were blown to bits.

    A guy getting kicked in the head was the worst the cop had ever seen? REALLY? That's your story?

    It was so bad, King wasn't even charged with murder. Because he clearly wasn't trying to kill the person. The cop (I think you're referring to) said the guy was talking to King as King was arrested.

    Guess what? You can talk to a guy who has been blown in half ... with his lower torso and legs over there ... and one of his arms over there ... like Shondor Birns or Danny Greene ... but they don't talk back.

    The place was a war zone.

    But that one time Don King kicked that guy in the head ... that was the worst thing this hard-bitten cop had ever seen in all his years on the beat?

    Please. Grow a pair, Nancy.

    Who is being disingenuous?
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    I think the point is, he turned his life around. As far as I know he was never charged with violent crime again. Certainly nothing close to this.
    Even his worst critics haven't claimed he went around stomping or murdering people when running his boxing business.
     
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    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
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  11. Bokaj

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    There sure were some strange cards in favor of fighters tied to King. Most blatant was probably that Tyson was even on one card and ahead on another when Douglas stopped him. But Pea vs Ramirez and Chavez ere also shameful decisions imo. It was quite a while ago I watched DLH vs Tito, but when I did I had it comfortably for Oscar. Was King involved in Holy-Lewis?

    Canelo vs GGG will probably be brought up as a counter, but while I thought the card that had Canelo widely winning the first fight was crazy, I don't think the decisions as a whole were that bad. That's my personal opinion, many think otherwise. But there were some very strange decisions in King's time, that's for sure. Many would name Ali-Young and Ali-Norton III among them. And the card that had Ali beating Spinks in the first fight. There definitely was a fair number.
     
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  12. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So still being disingenuous and maybe English isn't your first language. Some corrections here:

    I said the policeman said he'd never seen anyone take a beating like that.

    Your response was: people were getting blown in half... dismembered... and you think seeing a guy getting kicked in the head in the worst he's seen.

    Summary: I said the policeman said it was the worst "beating" he'd seen a man take. The key word there, and one which I may need to define for you since you skipped right over the word as if you had no clue how it pertained to the sentence. Even if you don't exactly know what the word beating means, and why I used it, you wouldn't think one would still act like the policeman was including people being blown up... when he was specifically talking about someone taking a beating. Odd deduction there, and you spent 75% of your paragraph listing things that aren't what the policeman was referring to when making that statement.

    Next, you continue to say, "kicked that guy in the head" seems to imply he kicked him once, when in fact, he was kicking and stomping on him multiple times while he lying on the ground not responding. That's the reality of what happened. He didn't just kick a guy in the head and stop there or walk away. He stomped on him to death. He was convicted on the crime, even though they reduced the charge for some suspect reasons. Just because he was pardoned many years later, doesn't change that fact that he committed murder, and was charged as such. Next time you decide to address one of my posts, try and actually read what I write and try to express your points factually instead of disingenuously.

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  13. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As you'll notice from my post... I quoted somebody saying... "He did nothing wrong" . It doesn't matter if you turn your life around after murder... if you commit murder... you did something wrong correct?
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    Fair enough. He definitely did some wrong things.

    You quoted a sarcastic/parody post, by the way.
     
  15. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't forget the bad scoring in Chavez/Randall I and Ii

    And the way he avoided having Chavez fight Randall again after Chavez got the bad decision after quitting in the second fight.

    Or that the WBC stripped Chacon for defending against their #1 Contender CBE. It's true King had options on Chacon but King wanted him to fight Camacho and would not have put Chacon v. CBE together.

    He had the WBC in his pocket
     
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