Was boxing promoter Don King really as unscrupulous as he was portrayed in the film Rocky V?

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, you said he was seen talking, so if he was seen talking how could King be charged with murder. The guy talking has ZERO to do with a charge being filed. That is exactly what my example proves. You have no clue what you're talking about if you think they guy uttering a sentence and alive at one point, means that King couldn't be charged. Do you want me to quote where you said that? It was quite the laugh
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I feel like I've made a little headway this week, since now we're down to a couple idiots ranting about King before he became a promoter 50 or 60 years ago instead of King while he was a promoter.

    Because maybe some people are waking up that they have only been listening to and repeating and embellishing one side of the story. Or they've been listening to total lies but, who cares, because "some of it might be true."

    I've met Don King. This is Don King in a nutshell when nobody is watching. Just a guy sitting around talking boxing who actually lived what he professes to know about.

    Not the cartoon character or the boogie man. The guy who made 100 boxers millionaires. The guy who fighters like Wepner and Bey and others were all thankful he gave them opportunities. The guy who made some of the greatest fights of the 20th century. The guy who would put six title fights on a card, whether the networks wanted to or even bothered to show them or not, because the people buying tickets to the fight would be thrilled. The guy who was one of the greatest boxing promoters ever. (The best, IMO.)

    He was no worse than any other promoter, but he was better than nearly all of them.

    He was certainly never the MURDEROUS IRISH MAFIA KINGPIN of CLEVELAND as some people (and Jack Newfield) would have you believe.

    Some of you need to get a grip.

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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If, in Rocky V, the character based on Wepner (Rocky) and the character based on King aren't on good terms ... then it wasn't a decent representation and you need to read and watch something else ... other than Jack Newfield and Rocky V.

    Chuck Wepner and Don King like each other. Chuck Wepner was thankful for the opportunity King gave him. King likes Wepner. They worked together just fine.

    The guy Chuck Wepner sued (and won against) and who Wepner doesn't care for ... is Stallone.

    King and Wepner like each other. Did Rocky V show that?

    If not, then the thread starter has his answer.

    I'm done for the day.
     
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  4. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is going on with this board Primo Carnera is great and now King was not an apex criminal

    The rendition and personality of King is captured well in that movie......jeeeez if they captured more and more detail on King it would have been the actual movie of Kings life instead of a character inspired by King

    Boxing is a dirty business....but to think that when guys like Blinky Palermo disappeared as a boxing front man that the Mob controlled sport just broke pff all control? a low level connected gangster in Cleveland suddenly jumps into the Mobs absence???? this makes sense to you?

    Forget about the multiple accusation of fighters being threatened to be killed with a mere phone call by King....ESPN did a documentary on him and only pulled it under King suing but stated that they cannot show it any other way the overwhelming opinion of King was he was connected and could call on a contract killer with no contrary evidence

    BTW most mobsters are not mafia or ethnic they are connected like a Stacks Edwards or a Richard Kuklinski ad do most of the dirty work

    Forget the Congressional investigation in which corruption in boxing was the subject in which it connected King directly to John Gotti but could not get King to implicate himself by pleading the 5th and hence hamstring the DOJ....but according to those on the investigation FBI agents their was no doubt but they could not produce enough evidence to satisfy requirements for an indictment.

    Great man
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Take a deep breath now. You're coming off a bit silly.

    Add Chavez-Randall and you have a fair amount of extremely disputed cards in favor of the KIng fighter. There is no way an uncorrupt judge could have Tyson ahead against Douglas.
     
  6. janitor

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    You don't understand a promoter like King by looking at one or two examples.

    His impact is too big for that.

    You understand him by taking a few steps back, and looking at the era as a whole.

    Do you think that King's influence resulted in more division of the title, or less division?

    Did it result in more unification, or less unification?

    I think we know the answer!
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Just a slimy boxing promoter, I'm sure he had days as bad as those portrayed in Rocky 5 which I last saw in 1993 or something.
     
  8. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very interesting read lads. Must admit id no idea the klitchkos were involved in shady ****. Is this on the level?
     
  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    True.

    And his barber deserves a mention too.
     
  10. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  11. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    OK Don, we know that's you.
     
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    The answer is yes but he was not alone ...