was calzaghe beatable ?

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  1. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Of course he was beatable but I agree with those saying he's underrated, he was a great fighter, adaptable, intelligant, great engine, good chin and recovery powers and despite his relative lack of pop he used to fight and be entertaining, yet some people talk about him like he was a joke

    I know Lacy didnt do anyhing after but he was highly rated and a big favorite with an intimidating reputation but Calzaghe put one of the worst schoolings ever handed down on him and I think that ruined Lacy
     
  2. madmanc3210

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    Unbeatable.he fought no one apart from fighters too small for the weight.baffles me how hes held in such high reguard
     
  3. madmanc3210

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    Spot on
     
  4. madmanc3210

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    Tszyu would be sluggish at 168
     
  5. IrnBruMan

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    He had a very good amateur career.
     
  6. madmanc3210

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    Absolute Bull****.Hopkins wanted no part of Joe till he seen hevwas starting to slow and he fought out of his own weightclass.Calzaghe s style rellies heavily on speed Hopkins is more relliant on strength.Calzaghe was more past it in boxing terms and still beat him in his own back yard
     
  7. Liechhardt

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    Prime Jones beats him, he might have got past prime B-Hop as Hopkins was 160. I'd pick him to beat a lazy Eubank but Chris is a shot, if Byron Mitchell put him on floor, Nigel Benn puts him through it. James Toney, motivated at 168, whips him in a tight fight.

    Joe was a great & deserves to be division top 3 but he came along at right time. He bashes today's SM's.
     
  8. madmanc3210

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    Check out his ameture recird you will be impressed
     
  9. horst

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    Ask Robin Reid, Bernard Hopkins, and a host of the fighters from his era that he never fought. :rofl
     
  10. madmanc3210

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    Calzaghe started boxing aged nine, with the southpaw having 120+ fights and won four schoolboy ABA titles, followed by three consecutive senior British ABA titles (British Championships) from 1991 to 1993. This made him only the second boxer in history to win at welter, light middleweight and middleweight divisions. He also beat future WBO and IBF heavyweight world champion Chris Byrd as a middleweight in 1992. Calzaghe received his only ever defeat when he boxed at amateur level when he boxed at the 1990 Welsh ABA final against Michael Smyth. Also bear in mind that Smyths dad was the ref and this loss cost him his olympic place
     
  11. Uncle Rico

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    You’re not serious, are you? Hopkins reliant on strength? Calzaghe more past it? Beat him in own backyard? Do you even know what the f*ck you’re talking about?

    For starters, Hopkins doesn’t have a backyard. At that time, he was disliked by everybody. He has never been favoured. That’s the way he’s always been. Despite it being in America (like that’s supposed to be a major accomplishment for ‘No Show Joe’ :lol:), Calzaghe was not enduring a hostile crowd with stern judges. So cut the crap, will ya’.

    Second, Calzaghe was not past it more than Hopkins. You’d have to be an idiot of epic proportions to believe that.

    Third, Hopkins doesn’t rely purely on strength. If that was the case, he would have fell short against biggers guys like Tarver and Pascal. Hopkins is all about intelligence and skill. But, the main reason he narrowly lost to Calzaghe in 2008, was because he couldn’t cope with the work rate. That was Calzaghe’s speciality; to throw lots of random slaps to overwhelm the opponent. Hopkins, at that stage of his career, had stamina issues and would always be vulnerable to that type of fighter.

    Now ask yourself, if Calzaghe can barely muster a split decision win against a conservative, low-stamina 42 year old Hopkins, then what on earth makes you think he’d do any better against a younger one who was known to be built for 15 hard, rough rounds?
     
  12. madmanc3210

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    the fact that he **** out of the fight when the deal was agreed when both where in their peak speaks volumes to me.hopkins style is to fight de la hoya who had been dominated by sturm and has no business at mw.
    At the end of the day Calzaghe is by far greater than Hopkins
     
  13. Uncle Rico

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    :lol:

    You deluded fool.
     
  14. madmanc3210

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    jermain taylor schooled him twice ffs,that tells you all you need to know
     
  15. Uncle Rico

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    He didn't school him, you idiot. But with that said, JT's effort against Hopkins was better than Calzaghe's, so if you think that low of JT (which I assume you do), then what does that say about Calzaghe? Also, JT had the balls to then rematch him immediately after - something which Calzaghe never did. At least he attempted to set the record straight.