Was Calzaghe/Manfredo Jr. a good stoppage?

realsoulja, I really expected a better response.

I never suggested that Calzaghe was a KO artist. I know he is not a knockout artist. It is not his style.

All did was explain why and how he stopped his opponents. You clearly could not respond to the facts that I presented.

Anyway, this was supposed be a discussion about Calzaghe's stoppage over Manfredo, yet you turned it into a hate campaign.

 

it was bull****. joe couldn't knock out a 40 year old glass jaw jones who stood in front of him all night. Manfredo was trying to wait for calzaghe to tire out, (which wasn't going to happen) and the ref called it. that's not a knock out PERIOD. don't hand a fighter ****, make him work for it. i'm sure he has plenty of wins like that. in America they wouldn't have stopped it for that bull****.

 

You can say Manfredo was out of his league, but calzaghe never really was that good. even manfredo showed it as he dodged and absorbed all of calzaghe's puches without any trouble. not really in harm, and calzaghe is a very hittable, not technically gifted fighter. manfredo could've eventually made a fight out of it. it's not like calzaghe's invincible. from what i've seen far from it.

 

For Manfredo, it was the perfect way out to save health AND face. He was about to get humiliated over and over and over again by ***** slaps never stop landing on his face, getting so utterly outclassed, Lacy'd, torn to pieces, brutalized and shat out that even poor SRL in the corner would've suffered a professional loss.

And then the ref just handed Manfredo his dignity when Calzaghe was about to shove it up in his ass. I'd love to get stopped the same way! Hey World I wasn't hurt (and glad I'm still alive).

 

Terible stoppage as far as Manfredo being hurt or even close to in Danger during that ugly slap flurry buuuuut not bad considering Manfredo woulda got shutout anyways and proly as result became a shell of his former self a la Jeff Lacy

 

Joe could have stopped Roy if he wanted to. Instead he danced, humiliated and carried him the full 12 RDs. Calzaghe had at least another 40% in the tank.

'Manfredo was waiting for Calzaghe to tire out'. Is that why he folded like a deck chair under constant barrage of punches? The stoppage was as a result of what had taken place in the previous rounds: Joe taking Manfredo apart.

It was a premature stoppage but it was going to happen by at least RD 8. I just understand why the ref made the decision to do it.

 

Really really bad stoppage.

The ref could tell Manfredo was outclassed and seemed to be looking for any chance to step in, even though Manfredo was unhurt.

That stoppage hurt Calzaghe far more than Manfredo though. Calzaghe was well on his way to an easy victory, possibly by a legitimate stoppage later in the fight, but now it's brought up as an example of how Calzaghe had no power to stop people. Manfredo had a right to complain, but there was no way he was ever winning that fight.

 

Give us some others? I know there were a handful in there but none were this bad imo.

 

There were a few really, really bad ones in the series of clips realsoulja posted.

 

Hell no. And that's not the only one. There are dozens of early stoppage win by Calzaghe it's almost sickening and you get the feeling he was overprotected in his homeland.

 

Again, dozens? Really?


I saw the clips posted up there and NONE of those stoppages qualified as terrible. A few of them were quite good, if you bother to watch the fight leading up to the stoppage.

I think in 32 stoppages it's a given that a handful might be premature. But in NONE of them was the outcome in doubt. Debate that if you will.

 

I tried to explain why some of Calzaghe's opponents were stopped. But you guys have swerved my response because you cannot debate with me. You guys clearly imply that the stoppages saved Calzaghe's skin. Rubbish, the fighters could not live with him.

Even the guys who took him the distance still lost.

Please don't mention that Hopkin's was robbed; he was defeated fair and square, at his own game and on his own turf. Calzaghe was well ahead on two scorecards, A. BYRD scored it 6 rounds each, with Hopkins having a 10-8 round in the first. That is why it was SD - if Joe had not gone down BYRD would have scored it a draw. The best result Hopkins could have hoped for.

Yes Hopkins was 43, but I jugde a fighter by how they perform in the ring not by their age. He clearly had a lot left: No. #1 175 fighter in the world. If Hopkins had fought Joe in 2002 like agreed instead of pullin out, he would got spanked sooner.

 

I hated it

I knw Joe was gonna win and Manfredo was a bum and it robbed us of a good stoppage that was bound to happen

In defense of the ref he wasnt firing back at all and had alot coming his way

 

no.