Was Charlie Burley a throwback to the era of Jim Corbett?

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He often fought in exacly the manner you describe. I think it's a reasonable claim to make. It may even have been his natural style, but it was NOT his only style. Burley would often come out all guns blazing, almost a swarmer it seems - Moore's quotes are very instructional, but there are many newspaper reports that seem to support Archie's appraisal.

    The style you've put your finger on is the one he tended to utilise against big punchers and bigger men - Burley was powerful enough to keep his man honest with a single punch (Even up at HW) but his chin probably wasn't up to that particular job. So not getting hit became paramount. His solution was elegant, but not pleasing - exellent head movement and accurate single shots, slowing the action to a crawl.

    Burley would also use that style in a "busy month". All 1942 -

    MAY 25 - Ezzard Charles (Lost in 10, a bit of a beating)

    JUNE 23 - Holman Williams (Won in ten)

    JUN 29 - Ezzard Charles (Lost in 10)

    The May battle with Charles was fought at pace, the two June fights were fought slowly and carefully to preserve energy.

    Janitor, they might still make them like they used to, but they sure don't get to prove it any more.
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think you are wrong on both counts.

    For one thing Burley is not working with combinations. He is esentialy throwing punches verry much like Bob Fitzsimmons.

    I would also dispute that fighters of the pre Dempsey era stoof flat footed and squared up. Corbett, Choynski and O'Brien were about as mobile on their feet as you can get.
     
  4. janitor

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    I think that you are half right.

    While the stance of Burley is reminiscent of the fighters of the 20s and 30s along with some aspects of the defence the punching style is verry much like that of ealier fighters such as Corbett and Fitzsimmons. An interesting combination for sure.

    Perhaps the fighter that reminds me most of Burley on film is Jimmy Wilde.
     
  5. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I’ve seen someone say that Burley, alongside Moore, learned everything they knew from bare knuckle boxers. So it’s possible there’s a stylistic link there, though Corbett footage probably isn’t where you’d find it.
     
  6. Stevie G

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    I wish I could get a book on Charlie.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Charley Burley and the Black Murderer's Row is available on ebook now for less than a tenner.
     
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    And well worth it!
     
  9. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not unlike Marshall either, which I always thought was a West Coast style, but the visual comparisons to the Turn of the Century is understandable, in simple terms it is Timing & Counter punching... in modern times RJJ was quite effective with it.

    it is fair to say it is and always was a part of Boxing and was employed by many fighters, like everything, some better than others at it.
     
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  10. Journeyman92

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    “It was fighters like Corbett who showed us the way” - Charley Burley
     
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