Was Chocolatito screwed?

Here's how I had it when I watched the fight.

Gonzalez vs Rungvisai

R1 10-8 Runvisai SSR scored a knockdown with a body blow.

R2 10-9 Gonzalez SSR throwing more. Gonzalez picking off shots with arms and gloves, landing more and better shots.

R3 10-9 Gonzalez Clash of heads leading to a cut by Gonzalez' right eye. Gonzalez landing more and cleaner shots, catching a lot of SSR's punches on forearms and gloves.

R4 10-9 Gonzalez More head clashing. SSR landing harder, going to the body, but Gonzalez landing more, landing more accurately, doing the cleaner work. SSR trys to bully Gonzalez around the ring with his strength, pushing Gonzalez to the ropes, but Gonzalez is taking little steps back and uppercutting SRR. SRR tries to lean on Gonzalez and smother his work, so Gonzalez moves laterally, side steps, dances around SRR hitting him from all angles, tattooing him in the last 30 seconds of the round.

R5 10-9 Gonzalez SSR landing the harder bombs doing more damage the first two minutes but in the final minute it's all Gonzalez dancing around him throwing punch after unreturned punch.

R6 10-8 Gonzalez This round was all Gonzalez bell to bell. First 30 seconds Gonzalez ducks or evades most shots leading into a headbutt. Then Gonzalez beats SSR around the ring with SSR occassionally trying to bull his way out by walking forward and pushing, but not doing anything offensively to score or do damage. Another headbutt at the end of the round and the referee takes a point from SSR.

R7 10-9 Rungvisai I feel like giving a round to SSR since Roman didn't do as well this round and those heavy hands of SSRs ought to get some credit, even if they don't land very often. They are having an effect. Another headbutt.

R8 10-9 Rungvisai I can't tell this round. Probably need to see it again. It seemed close. SSR lands harder and Gonzalez lands more and cleaner. SSR was bullying Gonzalez around for the first two minutes, grunting when he punches. Looked like he got in some good body punches.

R9 10-9 Gonzalez Close. Gonzalez came forward the whole three minutes pushing SSR around the ring. SSR backed up and tried to fight in spots as Gonzalez came in at him. Gonzalez had to work harder, throwing more punches, being busier, but looking the more tired fighter. Nothing flashy or spectacular here. Roman's eye is bleeding bad down his cheek.

R10 ? I don't know. The first minute they had a good toe to toe exchange and Gonzalez seemed to get the better of it, but SSR got off some really good heavy shots. He's just getting outworked by Gonzalez, taking two to land one. The question is are his shots worth two of Gonzalez? Gonzalez is trying to smother him with output chasing him around the ring, clearly in command, but SSR seems fresher and doesn't give a **** about Gonzalez' shots. He's backing up setting traps and trying to land when Gonzalez comes in. He's having some success, just not a lot.

R11 10-9 Gonzalez Gonzalez slowing now but still in control. SSR backing up. Not a lot landing since SSR is not accurate enough to hit Gonzalez and Gonzalez is too slow and weary to hit SSR. Gonzalez lands a few more punches, but it's not really much and SSR isn't bothered by them. Maybe, give the round to Gonzalez for ring generalship and dictating the terms of the fight.

R12 10-9 Gonzalez Big Gonzalez round. SSR running and holding. Gonzalez landing at will. All action coming from Gonzalez.

 

The word "robbery" should only be used if there's absolutely no way that the winning fighter could be given the nod. That wasn't the case here. There is a path that I could follow that could lead to a Sor Runvisai win, even if I chose not to take it. As long as you can allow for the fact that were multiple rounds that were close enough to go either way, you can't really complain all that much about how a fight like this is judged.

Personally, I called it a draw. There were rounds where SSR controlled the action for up to two minutes at a time, before Chocolatito would begin to flurry in an attempt to take back momentum. Sometimes it worked...sometimes it didn't. But, either way, it made for a hell of a fight and would have warranted a rematch regardless of the zult.

 

Ah you're one of those; a clearly biased monday morning quarterback trying to use compubox to justify the way he saw the fight and throws insults at those who saw the fight differently than he did.

 

Isn't that what GG fans are saying to Jacobs fans? Foh

 

WTF does that fight have to do with this. Try to stay on topic FFS.

 

What a ****en dumbass lmao. Lol

 

You triggered?

 

It was a close but clear win for Sor Rungvisai. Yes, he was missing a lot, but he was also throwing a lot. When you throw that many punches, you're bound to land some, and that's what I saw when I watched the fight. He was landing hard, thudding shots on Chocolatito which I think a lot of people are ignoring because a lot of his shots were also blocked. I don't usually care for what CompuBox tallies up, a lot of times it's inaccurate and you don't score based on who landed more punches in a round anyways. In a lot of the rounds I gave to the Thai, he just edged it out because he was putting in work from the very start of the rounds. Chocolatito, from what I saw, was inactive and ineffective at the start of many rounds and when he finally started throwing punches at like the final minute, I didn't think it was enough to steal the round from the Thai who was working throughout the round. No matter what compubox says, I think if Chocolatito was more active from the very start of many rounds, he would have edged it on my card.

I didn't prefer any of the two guys here, although I do enjoy watching Chocolatito, I don't have many favorite fighters. I thought he beat Cuadras clearly, so I don't think I'm biased. I just saw what I saw.

 

You totally didn't understand my simple point you dumb mother****er lmao...

 

And your point was that Choco and GGG both really won their fights cause that's what compubox tells us?


Go find a safe place, this one is not for you.

 

I had it 8-4 in favour of him. Rough to lose an unbeatan record like that

 

That's exactly right. Gonzalez clearly won 8 rounds: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12. Harold Lederman gave Rungvisai the 9th, but I really think that was bs and Gonzalez in that round was not only more accurate but just as active. The 4 rounds rounds that could reasonably have been given to Rungvisai were much closer, and any except the 1st in fact could have been given to Gonzalez. Rungvisai outthrew Gonzalez in those rounds, but Gonzalez was the guy who was landing the sharp, clean punches. Gonzalez did the better work all fight. But yeah, Gonzalez simply dominated 8 rounds. So despite a pretty close score of 115-111 being reasonable I think this was an atrocious screwjob.

 

There was no domination and no robbery. It was a closely contested fight all throughout. I was rooting for Gonzalez and have no problem with anyone thinking he won but it was a very close fight. IMO the KD was the difference.

 

Gonzalez doubled or tripled Rungvisai's connects in five of the rounds. How is that not domination?

 

Again, you seem to be trying to make your case based on Compubox numbers. Those numbers do not count the impact of the punches which IMO favored the Thai fighter.
Either way, there was still another 7 rounds that were pretty close and one that basically counted as 2 rounds for Srisaket by virtue of the KD.

Overall a close fight overall; No domination no robbery.