Was Clay physically fit for Military duty?

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  1. ThinBlack

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    Because he was the heavyweight champion of the world, and he wouldn't fall in line with the powers that be, so they tried to make an example of him.
     
  2. mcvey

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    That's my take on it too, his religious belief would not have made him flavour of the month either.:good
     
  3. dyna

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    Then they were just lucky.
    If he shut his own mouth or acted like he wanted nothing to do with any war he could have avoided it too.
     
  4. mcvey

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    Johnson represented the Marines as a LHVY in 1959 he was a career army man.
    Norton joined the Marines in 1963 , a year before the US was involved in Vietnam
    Orbillo was drafted and his career was ****ed.

    Weston was drafted

    Lewis was hardly top line.
    Foster volunteered for the Marines, he was not a prominent pro boxer ,in fact he was an amateur and represented his Corps as one.
    Weston was drafted .
     
  5. Senor Pepe'

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    Did Cassius Clay have poor representation...........

    Lawyers, Hayden C. Covington and Quinnan A. Hodges were regarded as 'high quality'
    attorneys in civil rights cases.

    And Cassius' staunchest supporter, Howard Cosell served in the U.S. Army .

    The jury of 6 men and 6 women, felt that Cassius had used his religion as a way to
    avoid the draft, despite his attorney's plea's that Cassius was 'sincere and honest',
    and a respectful citizen.
     
  6. mcvey

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    This thread started as an inquiry into Ali's physical fitness for service in the military. I believed there was an ulterior motive to the question ,and subsequent posts have confirmed it.
    Yes he was fit to serve ,but chose not to do so, on the grounds of his religious beliefs.

    Whether one thinks he was right or wrong to do so is a personal opinion.

    Agenda driven threads are a dime a dozen ,and that's over charging for them.
     
  7. Webbiano

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    awesome bit of info dude :good
     
  8. at first werent his test results too low on the IQ test they gave? but than they lowered the standards and it was good enough....i dont think anyone ever suggested he couldnt for physical reasons.
     
  9. Senor Pepe'

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    Correct,

    He was 'physically fit'

    But, he was considered 'incapable of understanding the simplest commands', and
    would be a liability to his fellow servicemen.

    Captain, Luther Jackson II of the U.S. Army,

    'It''s not like we were going to make him a Tank Commander, or logistics analyst. He
    would have been a regular 'dogface'.
     
  10. mcvey

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  11. Azzer85

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    They originally drafted him but he didnt meet the marks or something, then they changed the goalposts later due tot he number of casualties which meant he was eligible, or something like that
     
  12. Senor Pepe'

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    Cassius Clay,,

    I can't go into the Army. Who's going to take care of my Red Cadillac.

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  13. mcvey

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    The vibes I am getting indicate that you are not a member of Muhammad Ali's fan club.:verysad