What, because he beat Ishida a couple of times and dropped Mundine? Nah. He was domestic level, and calling him anything else is overrating him. Tough and heavy-handed but not very athletic or skilled. Wide looping punches, very hittable. (though he did sometimes employ a comical variation of the James Toney style shoulder roll, long before it became fashionable to ape. With some refined technique he could've been a really good puncher - still probably would've fallen short of world class, though. Mamaní in his prime was at best a B+ talent, being generous, and he managed to outbox Kim and ultimately pelt him into a jelly-legged stupor with 1-2s.
I don't know if the underlying agenda here (if there is one, maybe I'm just cynical from too long on the forums) is to help bolster Mundine's image or promulgating the idea that Ishida was ever any good. If the former, keep that delusional Choc the ATG stuff in the Aussie section. :yep If the latter - people really need to let it go, as concerns Ishida. He was a freakish physical specimen for his weight, and not a terrible boxer - yet his abilities have been overblown since he became a known commodity in the last three years. Yes, he took care of business with Kirkland, and deserves full credit for coming in highly motivated (because of the recent tragedy back home in Japan, dedicating his victory to his countrymen afterward) and prepared with the right game plan to catch the worst-ever version of Kirkland to set foot in the ring cold and get rid of him. Solid overachieving night for Ishida. Also, yes, he deserved the nod and successful defense of his interim WBA 154lb title in Mexico but lost via home-cooking to Rigo Alvarez - even though Rigo started wearing him down with pressure and hurting Ishida late to force him on his bike. Kind of a similar dynamic to ODLH vs. Trinidad, for those who never saw it. That's really it, though. The surprise Kirkland bang-out, and unofficially taking a narrow points lead on my card over Canelo's shitty brother. Before and since those back-to-back performances the best thing he ever managed was twice outpointing Marco Avendano - who is the very definition of 'average'. He lost just about every round to Williams and Pirog, and despite the brave start was destroyed with ease by Golovkin. As hard as it may be for people to wrap their heads around, Kirkland lost to a pretty insignificant foe. (good for Nobuhiro getting his 15 minutes of fame after that and getting some paydays, don't get me wrong - nice guy and everything - but really not ever a legitimate player on the world scene). Same lines as Khan losing via KO1 to Prescott doesn't necessarily mean Prescott is anything special...except that Prescott might actually be less of a non-entity in his division than Ishida was at middle and junior middle.
Sr.? Yeah, prime for prime, Kim has a puncher's chance. Most likely he gets clowned and misses all night, though.
Hes a troll dude, giving him legitimacy by responding isnt gonna help. Most of his threads are based on how Charr is an ATG
