was cro cop 'past it' before going to the ufc?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by davidwatts, Aug 7, 2012.


  1. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    Seriously...don't you have anything better then insulting us based on a perfectly natural phenomenon ?


    I mean....only uneducated ******** like yourself would think that is some kind of insult... ! :huh
     
  2. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, Crocop was never close to the same again after Gonzaga. His first fight against that poor dude Eddie Sanchez. Come to think of it the guy was as much a tune up as anything I've ever seen in MMA, but he looked sharp and still had that dangerous level of aggression.

    He carried that left leg around with authority. I remember watching him hit people in the liver and you would just see them wilt. He'd follow up with surprising power in his hands, the LHK would come out of nowhere.. Just such a punishing and destructive combination of skills. In his prime he could do more damage with his weapons than anyone I can think of, even now.

    After Gonzaga its like he packed his left leg away, always had a tentative look in his eyes where before you just saw alpha killer. Don't care what anybody says, the man changed.
     
  3. Yes and it was hardly disputed at the time
     
  4. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even by your standards, this is particularly incomprehensible dribble.

    What on Earth are you talking about? :-(
     
  5. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    Probably because Josh Barnett, Aleksander Emelianenko, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Wanderlei Silva, Igor Vovchanchyn, Heath Herring, Kazuyuki Fujita and Kazushi Sakuraba weren't cans, and he crushed them all.

    A win over a prime Josh Barnett is a serious scalp for any heavyweight. Barnett was an extremely tough and good fighter in his day. That opponent alone sets Crocop way above actual can-crushers like Lombard.
     
  6. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    I agree with this, he took a bad beating on the ground from Gonzaga and was still dazzed when he took one of the biggest head kicks in history. It's hard to recover mentally and physically from something like that.

    I remember the Sanchez fight and Sanchez was actually running away from him and almost collapsed out of fear.
     
  7. Ne5ville14

    Ne5ville14 Rationalist by default... Full Member

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    You lack serious cognitive capability....:lol:
     
  8. KERRIGAN

    KERRIGAN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because I'm not fluent in ******, like you and Stoo? :-(
     
  9. davidwatts

    davidwatts Guest

    i always had the impression he had no desire to really be fighting in the ufc, and only carried on because he wanted to honour his contract. his head never seemed into it.
     
  10. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im a big crocop fan. ive been watching him for years! even before pride days.

    i remember he destroyd everyone in the 2006 open weight grand prix. he looked scary.

    then he goes into the ufc and fights eddie sanchez. i remember this fight like it was yesterday. he didnt look the same. looking all smiley, no scary stare down. infact it looked like the pressure was getting to him. rampage once said that the ufc jitters are REAL! they obviously affected him.

    he also stopped being a complete fighter. relying heavily on his left head kick rather than use boxing to set it up. i remember the sanchez fight wasnt a great performance and he was dominated by gonzaga before the big KO. just wasnt the same guy.
    he's always smiling and looking almost submissive during the prefight staredown. and touching gloves during the fight.

    it shows how big a part the mental game is in everything we do!
     
  11. Big N Bad

    Big N Bad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    point being, people say he wasnt the same after the gonzage KO. i say he wasnt the same since he stepped into the ufc. not because of the competition, but the pressure of performing, not being right mentally. its sad really
     
  12. davidwatts

    davidwatts Guest

    he is my favourite mma fighter. he didn't seem to want to throw leg kick all that often in his ufc days, never could understand that.
    maybe the opportunities didn't present themselves? making excuses maybe?
    did he end any of his ufc fights with a head kick?
     
  13. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The LHK hasbt ended a fight in the ufc yet
     
  14. kel

    kel Boxing Addict banned

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    Nor will it :good