Was Cus D'amato the ruin of Tyson.

Mato was the only one to control Mike...its when he passed that Mike went apeshyt!

 

This is an interesting argument. I see your point, and I agree that some more discipline would have helped Mike. However, I also think that if Cus had tried to discipline Mike more, Mike would not have reached the heights that he did, as soon as he did. The love that Cus showed him helped to reign him in and I think gave him something/someone to work for. Without Cus as the father figure, and without the goal of being champion, Mike would have self-destructed far sooner. As soon as Mike accomplished the goal, and after Cus died, it was all downhill from there.

 

I think the lack of Cus D'amato was the ruin of Tyson.

 

maybe...all i know is Mike was nowhere near as bad when Mato was around.

 

Cus had him doing the dishes cleaning his room, he turned Mike into a discipinarian.

Cus was very smart without him Mike would of ruined his life in brooklyn.

 

"Tyson" was the ruin of Tyson...

 

what a ridiculous arguement.

 

Cus understood HOW to control Mike, most effectively. Yelling and doing what everyone else did...didnt work. Showing him the positive result of doing it correctly created a visable reward for Tyson.

 

Tyson was bipolar and had a lot of problems. Cus did as much as he could with him, I mean hell he became linear heavyweight champion of the world didnt he?

I get what people are saying that Cus turned a blind eye to some of Tysons problems but what else could he do Tyson's problems were a mix of psychological and his early childhood.

 

Yes that's true.

 

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teddy atlas knows Best/ teh most about Tyson. :deal

Cus made Tyson into a v.mentally weak BULLY with no Self-diciplin who need to be told what to do//how to train - when SOmeone stood-up to him And showed no-Fear - Buster , , Holyfield And Lennox - Tyson Mentally-quit as he could-not Initimidate them like he could with teh bumz he KO1.

 

Not to be smug but is that a serious question? If anyone had a hand in ruining Tyson it was Don King. In addition as somebody already mentioned the addictive personality had to be there to be ruined. Mike ruined Mike.

 

Tyson was a 19 year old kid with millions of dollars, how many 19 year old millionaire kids stars do you know to date that were controllable at that age and that much money .. NONOe Tyson was no different ..