Was De la hoya on PEDs when he fought Vargas.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bigdog2001, Aug 8, 2012.


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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    He hadn't fought Mosley the 2nd time yet, that wasn't for 2 years later.

    He didn't fade against Trinidad, he just took the last 2 rounds off because he didn't think the judges would screw him (he even won the 12th on 2 judges cards)

    He won the last 3 rounds against Quartey.
     
    turbotime, Aug 8, 2012
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  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    DLH came off trying to be more of a slickster than a strong-man in that fight, IMO. Lots of lead rights followed by a weaving exit through the side doors.
     
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  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    IF Hoya was ever "Roided" it would have been in the Whitaker fight.
    (Dude was ripped to shreds, Never seen Oscar look as BIG or cut)

    That said I don't belive Golden ever "Roided".
     
    Hatesrats, Aug 8, 2012
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  4. bigdog2001

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    he was moving the man with his shoulder and arm bro. I honelty belive because of the bad blood and basically the importance of the fight amongs the mexican community that he might have indeed roided up for this one.

    I remember oscar saying "I don't care if he comes in strong, and if he is big, if he hits me i got something of my own" like saying yeah we all know he is juicing but so am I, LOL

     
    bigdog2001, Oct 1, 2012
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  5. SHADOW BOX

    SHADOW BOX SHADOW BOX Full Member

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    Vargas was stronger in the fight. Just look at the first couple of rounds and how much more stronger Vargas looked.
     
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  6. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    did he fail the test??
     
    itsa huge bitch, Oct 1, 2012
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  7. kirk

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    Ya, actually he did fade against Trinidad.

    Oscar himself said he had never been that tired, and his legs were weak and shaking or whatever.

    So yes, a big reason why he did what he did was because he was fading, and didnt want to stand in front of Trinidad on weaker legs.
     
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  8. kirk

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    Did Mosley ever fail a drug test? Did Morrison?

    I realise we have to use drug tests as our indicators as to who is guilty, but it hardly is the be all end all of whos clean and whos not. Plenty of fighters juice without getting caught.

    But I do realise what youre saying, it has to count for something that he never had rumors of juicing, or failed a test, ect.
     
    kirk, Oct 1, 2012
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  9. kirk

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    For the record, I dont think he was.
     
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  10. dodong

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    http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/mayweather-pacquiao-peds-and-boxing

    to this date, oscar has not signed the consent.
     
    dodong, Oct 1, 2012
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  11. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    Funny, nowadays everyone is/was possibly on steroids or some PED. Everyone has questionable resumes. Everyone is ducking. Everyone is dodging. Pretty much, everyone sucks when you take in account the collective cynicism of spectators. Why even bother being a boxing fan these days, right? Seems like anyone can manufacture an asterisk these days to put along side wins. No thanks, tired of this little game.
     
    santiagoraga, Oct 1, 2012
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  12. papolamuerte

    papolamuerte Yo soy La Muerte! Full Member

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    Thank PBF for that!!!!

    :good
     
    papolamuerte, Oct 1, 2012
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  13. santiagoraga

    santiagoraga Your Parents Sucked Full Member

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    Yeah, exactly. Much of the blame lies there.
     
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  14. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    we cannot and should not take anything away from fighters untill they are proven guilty..if proven guilty they should be gunned down..i hate cheating ****s
     
    itsa huge bitch, Oct 1, 2012
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  15. kirk

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    Ya man I agree with you actually, good call. :good
     
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