Was Dirrell faking it???

Dawg.

 

You know, you're right. Every boxer who has ever been knocked out cold and was up on his feet a few minutes later MUST have been faking. Ricky Hatton, for instance. Or Roberto Duran (after Tommy Hearns' devastating right).

How could I have been so foolish to assume that all these knockouts were genuine.

Nero, you have really made me see the light. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

 

Did they had memory loss and seizure ? Or trouble breathing ? and did they walk in the ring right after that yelling dwag ... Let me breath ya'll Let me breath folks . I got knocked out

 

You're being silly. The fact that most KO's are real doesn't mean you can't fake it when you get hit while sitting down. Dirrell was looking pretty good and he realised he was about to be the victim of a late KO (like so many of Abraham's recent opponents). He had every reason to pretend he couldn't continue. And yes, anyone can fake trembling legs.

 

A man after something like that should be lethargic not alert & energetic

 

So you're argument is that he was just acting rationally? That seems to be what you're saying.

You're saying: Any rational person would have done what (you cliam) Dirrell did -- namely fake a KO by means of over-the-top acting.

Correct?


Incidentally, you're thesis is bizarrely stupid and shared by zero credible boxing experts.

 

What, has Max Schmelling weighed in yet? I missed that if so.

 

Point out to the Brits that Taylor was up center ring asking for a rematch after his "KO" in the Froch fight. He wasn't doing that in the Pavlik or Abraham fights. Everyone knows Taylor was in boxing for the money and was paid to take a dive. :deal

 

I think Dirrell pulled a Michalczewski here. Of course nobody but Dirrell can be 100% sure, and to be fair he wouldn't have got an opportunity to act if Abraham hadn't hit him when he was down. I also think that Abraham knew very well what he was doing, and that he threw that punch out of sheer frustration.

But I've been knocked out myself, and my experience was that you don't remember what happened before the KO. You don't even remember the KO itself, and you don't know that you've been knocked out until your trainer explains it to you. You certainly don't walk around crying and being sorry for being knocked out, because you don't know what happened. And his team didn't tell Dirrell that he's been knocked out either, because it wasn't a 'legal' KO - they told him he had won. Then again you're pretty confused after being knocked out, so...
I still think Dirrell faked it.

 

Thank you for that personal testimony. It was highly authoritative. I fainted once, though, and there was a delayed reaction. I even said "gee whiz, I'm about to faint ..."

Any more anecdotes from people who who were knocked out once upon a time and think that makes them experts on the varieties of conscious and unconscious states?

 

Billions of people in this world. Billions of circumstances. Billions of brain cells and nerve endings. Trying to say Dirrell's reaction had to be YOUR reaction is reaching a bit. He DID have to get told. Watch the post fight again. Remember, you are only seeing him AFTER he has been up for a while. He is still saying he lost. There was a thread about peoples experiences getting KO'd here before. Mine from football. I blacked out and dropped but never actually lost consciousness so I didn't consider myself knocked out. The coach did from his perspective.

 

If u look closely, the punch didnt even land flush. It was more of a grazing shot. Dirrell faked it!

 

It looks like you and all those jokers that voted "faking" have been owned :

Dirrell suffers concussion

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215761

 

Blaze
After viewing the fight and witnessing the controversy in posts about AD faking, I decided to show the fight to my mother who is a physician to get her assessment. What we thought was AD's leg shaking was actually him instinctively trying to get up. It was her assessment that after he was hit that he wasn't out completely. His leg moving was him trying to roll over which he began to after about 7 or 8 seconds, but only making it to his side. Apparently she said when you're hit like that you r nerves shut down and you slowly begin to regain control of your body. She also mentioned that the doctor would have known he was faking as soon as they check his vitals, but she would have to have taken the vitals herself to know for sure.
01.04.10 @ 21:24:16

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=23328&more=1

 

Are you kidding me? Abraham was getting closer and closer, scored a knockdown in the last round and he had a chance for instant victory by DQ. Who wouldn't take it?

Like i said, i'm talking about genuine KO's, not ones where one fighter has something to win out of being KO'd.

Lewis vs Grant, Peter vs Williams, etc etc, same KO result. There is a HUGE difference between the involuntary movement of an arm due to the impact on the canvas, and being fully conscious and responding for a second, and then suddenly being out cold.

His leg was still stiff when he rolled over? Yeah? Because when conscious people roll over, they have to kick their legs while doing it?? News flash: that's how conscious people roll over in that position. Without moving the legs.

Watch 1:15 to see how he consciously uses his back and shoulder muscles to roll over:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0LvAbRSIOA[/ame]

This is only seconds after he went out cold of course. 15 seconds later, he pushes away the flashlight that shines in his face, which is a natural reaction........ when you are conscious, of course.

Greatest acting jobs?

Then why is 50% of ESB (see poll) questioning it? Why are there a lot of consistencies, as i've already posted? Also, it's not really hard to think of that at all. Get hit. Grab my head to indicate i've been fouled (he already proved his conscious there). Then realize that if this knocked me out, i have an instant win be DQ.

Have you ever boxed? Then you know that it's VERY intense and you're constantly at a high breathing rate. Not to mention when he was visibly tiring. Sorry, but this magic "labored breathing" is just natural breathing during a fight.

All nothing special to do. And he DID position his arm when he was falling. He did protect his eye when the flashlight was shining into it.

Again, i'm not talking situations where fighters have something to gain by being KO'd.

Again, you've not read my post well. I'm talking about fighters who are KO'd COLD and/or convulsing. Hatton was TKO'd and although obviously hurt, he wasn't out cold like for instance Taylor was against AA.

Personal attacks are not arguments, sorry.

Of course i'm not gonna do that. It's embarrassing and pointless. Any able-bodied person can shake body parts. If you can't then i'm sorry and i hope you don't take offense.

That analogy doesn't make sense. There is no historic occurrence of two Boeing's flying at high speed into a 1500 ft building, so there is no reference for comparison. Which is where your analogy breaks down, because hundreds of boxers are filmed to have been knocked out cold, in history. So there is plenty of material to draw a coherent comparison. And none of them are first well conscious, then convulsing and out - outside of the serious brain trauma cases of course.

I move goal posts? You need to read my post before making statements like that. Since you make this mistake 3 times in one post, let me quote my own words in my last post, which is post #571 of this thread. Look it up: