Was Dirrell faking it???

Moving the goal posts.

 

The best I've seen was that he was trying to regain control of that leg to turn over. You've decided you believe Dirrell was a coward looking for a way out. Your opinion. Fine.

 

not really moving the goal posts. Remember, whether Dirrell was writhing ina semi-conscious state or having unconscious convulsions has nothing to do with MY argument. That distinction only matters to you. I never made any claim about wehtehr he was "tremblng", "twitching", "convulsing" or "writhing" -- my only claim is that he wasn't "acting".

After looking at the clip I see no evidence that he was "convulsing" -- although the camera angle isn't so good. I do see evidence that he was turning his legs back and forth.

I know, I said I was out. B-Hop told his mother that he was going to retire from boxing and look at him -- still fighting at 45. I'm no worse than him.

 

Another appeal to emotion. I never called Dirrell a coward, but that is much easier to demonize than the fact that we haven't found anything remotely similar to what happened with Dirrell, in the history of convulsed fighters.

 

:huh
anybody else want to jump on this train? I still like the one where you said that Dirrell couldn't have been faking because the doctor's responded to him as if he was not faking it. That **** cracks me up.

I can just see the doctors coming into the ring after Cole starts screaming "Doctors! Doctors!"

"Yeah? What? **** you Cole! Tell him to cut the crap!"

Since they didn't do that though, we know Dirrell wasn't overselling the punch.

Cobbler's reasoning. :nut

 

now you're just lying. I never said that. I dare you to find the quote of my saying that.

You appear to have confused me with "cobbler" which doesn't say much for your reading comprehension.

 

And, just for fun. Dan Rafae's opinion.
Ray (Dearborn, MI)



It's pretty appalling all the "acting" accusations people are aiming at Dirrell. Any buzz of that on your end? What are your thoughts?
Dan Rafael (12:12 PM)




I think those who think he was acting should be required to fight 10-plus hard rounds, go to a knee because you've slipped and then have to take a flush right from Abraham that you didn't see and then let me know if it was no big deal. The folks who think he was acting are morons.

 

Dirrell was faking it for sure .... i just don't know what part and how much was for real and how much was fake from the whole thing. But something was fake there . The breathing problems at the end of the fight are 100% fake and who knows what else(maybe the memory loss to) . I got bored of debating this . It's he's fault cuz he's acting like a baby( i hate that crying baby face - how many fighters do that ffs) and that made so many ppl think that the whole thing is an act. The only 1 who knows for sure is Dirrell i don't think even Abraham can tell . NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

 

my apologies that was lampley
conrad + dobler = cobbler for me
but I guess that is confusing since there already is a cobbler, so I will refrain from that
lying? no, it was a mistake.
you are the one who wrote that the movement of Dirrells brain allowed him to keep moving and once his brain stopped moving that he too then stopped moving.


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"When the brain slams into the inside of the skull, it suffers trauma. It then bounces off the inside of the skull and slams into the opposite side. This causes even more trauma. Depending on the force of the punch, this can happen several times before the brain comes to rest inside the skull."

The brain is bouncing all over the place, hitting the skull. This is happening slowly. That's why Dirrell didn't immediately go unconscious -- because his brain was still bouncing all over the place.


so you are saying the bouncing of Dirrell's brain allowed him to continue being conscious, that Dirrell can continue physical movement because his brain is physically moving around in his skull and once the brain settles, Dirrell too settles and goes unconscious.

so the more Dirrell's brain moves around before settling the more Dirrell is able to move around.

I don't see where it says anything like that in what you quoted. where does it say the brain coming to rest inside the skull is the point at which consciousness is lost?

Do boxer's brains bouncing around inside skulls and having convulsions give clean MRI's?