Was Erik Morales washed up in this fight? (VOTE)

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  1. Dominicano Soy!

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    Yes he was, Morales shouldn't have never lost to Zamir Raheem. It's sad that Pacquiao got all the credit in the world after defeating EM but Zamir got none. Also, why didn't Pacquiao fight Zamir Raheem? Lots to be asked.
     
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  2. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    You are right. Poor Raheem, no one gave a **** he school Morales while pac shot up the atg ranks when he defeated Morales. It makes no sense.
     
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  3. Bazooka

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    Actually the 1st Morales fight Pacquiao lost, so the credit he did get was in the rematch when he knocked him out it was basicly credit not for beating Morales but for winning in a rematch against a guy you lost to.
     
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  4. MIP4P1

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    Yeah, but according to Roach, Morales was SHOT in the rematch with Pacquiao. How can you get credit over beating a SHOT fighter?

    The Morales that beat Pacquiao was not the same fighter that lost to Pacquiao.
     
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  5. MIP4P1

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    Not to mention Pac moved up the p4p ranks for beating a SHOT fighter, according to his very own trainer, Roach.

    Pac LOST to Morales even though Pac was the 2/1 betting favorite, so why didn't Raheem get put on the top 10 p4p rankings for beating a legend as the +800 underdog. :think

    Shouldn't Raheem get more credit since he beat Morales right after he whooped Pacquiao?

    Clearly, Morales should have retired after Raheem retired him.

    Pacquiao NEVER beat an elite Morales. :deal

    Why didn't Pacquiao fight Raheem? Why did he fight Raheem's SHOT leftovers instead? I agree, there's a LOT of questions that need to be answered. :yep
     
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  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Morales was washed up by this time..he had been in a lot of wars by this time...ne 1 who cant see this is blind really...
     
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  7. puga_ni_nana

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    the fight was at 135, a weight morales was not suited anyway, and that was after the first fight with pac which turned-out to be a war. it's like marquez fighting floyd at 147.

    and about the 2nd fight and 3rd fight, it was all morales' camps call. pac back then still doesn't have the stature of a morales to demand. it was mora;es' balls that want him a 2nd and 3rd fight with pac.

    morales still was an elite fighter at 130 back then.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Sep 20, 2009
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  8. MIP4P1

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl Silly *******!

    Morales didn't fight at 130 because he COULDN'T make weight. :deal

    The fight went ahead anyway with Raheem at 133, who was the +800 underdog. Morales would be dominated in a one-sided fight by Raheem. It was the upset of the year!

    Roach put a severe WEIGHT PENALTY on Morales in the rematch. Roach knew Morales had a hard time making 130, and made damn sure if Morales dared to come in over weight he would have nothing left in his purse. :yep

    Morales was severely drained in the rematch. It's a testament to just how much better he is than Pacquiao, that he was STILL able to outbox Pacquiao for 6 rounds with all those disadvantages.
     
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  9. puga_ni_nana

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    i know what you are doing. you are trying to shift away the heat from your boyfriend floyd for fighting an overmatched jmm. this is not even close. morales has as much bigger chance beating pac the 2nd time around than jmm beating floyd at welterweight. pathethic joyboy! :lol:
     
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  10. MIP4P1

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    That's because a SHOT Morales was still too good for Pacquiao. How else do you explain a SHOT fighter, according to Roach, out-boxing Pacquiao for 6 rounds in the rematch after losing EVERY round to Raheem. :yep

    It's not Mayweather's fault he's too damn skilled that the p4p2 fighter can only land 12% of his punches against him. :good
     
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  11. puga_ni_nana

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    it's because floyd chooses his opponents carefully. :good :lol:
     
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  12. MIP4P1

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    Carefully chose the p4p2 fighter who arguably beat Pacquiao twice, and put on a Boxing Clinic.

    Pacquiao chose a SHOT drained Morales who was DOMINATED by Raheem... and struggled with him. :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  13. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    Well Cus D'Amato once said something to the effect of every shopworn fighter has one last great performance in them, I think that the first 6 rounds of the 2nd fight with Pacquiao was Erik's one last great performance then after that he had shot his bolt. He definitely wasn't prime though and my god he looked like a skeleton on the scales weighing in for the 3rd fight. :-(
     
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  14. puga_ni_nana

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    idiot it was morales call. only morales' camps back then has the right for a rematch.

    floyd meanwhile carefully chosen marquez who was 2 divisions down and wants pac to do all the welterweight chores for him fighting miguel cotto. :lol:
     
    puga_ni_nana, Sep 20, 2009
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  15. MIP4P1

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    Co-Sign... :good but his last great performance was Morales vs Pacquiao I :deal

    As shown in the Raheem fight. Morales was FINISHED. Even Roach said Morales was SHOT before the Pacquiao rematch.

    Oh, and that was the 2ND fight he looked like a skeleton in. I have the video of the weigh-in with a guy saying, "Morales looked like he will pass out, he's in trouble"... :-(
     
    MIP4P1, Sep 20, 2009
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