Was Fernando Vargas really brought along to quick?

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  1. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. lefthook31

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    Reid was also managed by another guy who had no patience for development (Dan Goosen), although Reid had numerous surgeries on his eye that really never corrected the problem. I think in Reids case it was a good decision to get him a big money fight, but I think Vargas was rushed too quickly.
     
  3. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    I suppose they could have preserved him for another year or so as a prospect,rather than simply jumping at the first opportunity for a title shot that came along.But Vargas was Vargas.If you go and watch his fights as he was on his way up,it was obvious that he possessed a maturity(as a boxer) and developed alot sooner as a pro than the vast majority of prospects usually do.



    The Trinidad fight ruined him as a fighter,but it wasn't a lack of experience or maturity that really cost him.He showed both maturity and composure in recovering from almost getting knocked out early on,remaining composed and gradually boxing his way back in to the fight.He just happened to be fighting an elite fighter,and a devestating puncher who was at the peak of his powers.No shame in losing there.He gave a hell of an account of himself and it created for an epic fight that people still reminisce about today.




    Compared to what he was,he became a sloppy mess following the Trinidad fight.He adopted a more aggressive,brawling approach and he looked truly awful against Rivera and Flores.Slow as hell,stationary,no versatility and absolutely no fluidity in his game anymore.That calm,measured approach that defined him earlier in his career wasn't there anymore - no real control in his aggression.




    He tried to go back to his boxing roots and adopted a more conservative manner in his fights against Raymond Joval and Javier Castillejo,but he was even slower by this time and looked a complete and utter shell of the smooth young boxer that fought Campas,Marquez and Quartey.
     
  4. leverage

    leverage Active Member Full Member

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    I think so. Vargas had a lot of talent but at the same time he wasn't experienced enough to be thrown in with the elite. He was still a bit green and it takes more than just talent to have long term success.

    I feel that he had a decent career but it could have been better. He should have been allowed to develop and mature more before he started fighting guys like trinidad and de la hoya.

    These fights definitely shortened what could have been a much more stellar career. In a way Vargas kind of reminds me of jerry quarry in that he fell short against the very best. But trinidad and de la hoya really ruined him, he took terrible beatings in both fights. He suffered the kind of punishment that causes a boxer never to be the same again.