Was Floyd even aware that he would lose to Dela Hoya in their fight?

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  1. horst

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    I really cannot understand how anyone can think Floyd was either dominant or impressive. He didn't dominate, he wasn't impressive. "Period".
     
  2. Relentless

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    he wasn't impressive at all compared to what he has done and could have done.

    it was funny straight after the fight duquan the janitor (pimp c) and his friends were claiming it was a schooling, they were comparing it to lacy-calzaghe!
     
  3. horst

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    I have noticed PowerPuncher refer to it as a "schooling" as well. PowerPuncher's opinions are the cyber equivalent of an anal creampie.
     
  4. Relentless

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    they kept repeating it and now actually believe it!

    i bet you none of them have the balls to watch that fight again fully, it was boring.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Yes. It was tactically executed in a strange way by both guys, the way I remember it and I thought Floyd dropped a lot of rounds early. I didn't think either man was that impressive in that particular fight, to be honest. Nothing as good as I've seen either of them perform, by a long shot. "The fight to save boxing" :lol:. But, a split-decision was far from complaint-worthy as some *****nstrous types may say.
     
  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I had floyd winning 7-5 on that night, There cant be made a case to say oscar won though.
     
  7. AMERICANBORN

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    i thought he was defensively very impressive, put his offense left alot to be desired that night, i think he felt some of oscars power and didnt want to leave himself open to getting hit flush, while i dont think he dominated the fight, i thought he won a clear UD but left alot to be desired
     
  8. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I gave the 12 to Oscar. Floyd oppened a bit at the end and was cought with a nice left hook
     
  9. Entogenictwin

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    agreed. i only saw the fight once so wud need to watch again to know for certain but i thought floyd only had it by 2-3 rounds at best but cant be sure....i just remember, floyd keeping up the same pace as de la hoya fading towards the end.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

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    According to Compubox Mayweather outlanded Oscar 2-1. The thing is when you actually rewatch the fight, the punches you thought Oscar landed did not. The amount of flush punches he landed is miniscule. Lets see a highlight clip of Oscars punches he actually landed, they were so few and far between.

    Theres allot of myths with this fight:

    1. "It was close" - it wasn't unless you don't care if the punches actually land or not, outscoring someone 2-1 in punches landed is not close
    2. "It was even in the early rounds" - except Oscar got outlanded in every round
    3. "The jab was working for Oscar", well it didn't land, so it wasn't
    4. "Oscar stopped throwing the jab", on average statistically he was throwing it as often in the late rounds

    Anyone who had this 'close' doesn't really understand boxing or has poor eye sight
     
  11. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I had Mayweather up like 7-5 or 8-4. He had it wide imo.
     
  12. unsigned_userv2

    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't see how it was low-risk. Oscar was fighting back at his optimal weight and at the time was a top 3 jr. middleweight who had just demolished a tough opponent.

    There was almost no chance of Floyd scoring a KO, and relying on judges picked by goldenboy, in front of mostly oscar supporters would not help the case. The fact one judge had the audacity to score the fight in favour of Oscar is testament to favouritism.

    Sure Floyd sr had inside knowledge, but Oscar had one of the smartest trainers in Roach in his corner.

    Floyd was never a big welterweight, whereas Oscar was fighting comfortably at middleweight so he moves to face a guy who stylistically can give him problems.

    While this was not prime Oscar, this was still a very impressive win by Mayweather facing a HOF who was on the tail end of his career but still dangerous.
     
  13. Relentless

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    it really sucks when you have to base your argument over 3 fat old men hired by HBO pushing a button each time they think a punch landed.

    you should know by now fights are won by rounds not total punches landed.
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    How can you say Oscar had just demolished a tough opponent when he hadn't fought in a year?

    I mean even considering Mayorga a tough opponent is questionable. Mayorga got KTFO bad by Tito, then won a vacant title against who? Piccirillo? and then fought Oscar.

    And how can you say Oscar was fighting comfortably at MW? did you see OScar vs Sturm and Oscar vs Hopkins? Nothing comfortable about it.

    Sorry to tell you but Oscar was a loss waiting to happen.
     
  15. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's cut to the chase and go to where you want this to go.

    "Pac TKO 8 > Mayweather SD therefore Pacquiao > Mayweather. :deal"