Was Floyd even aware that he would lose to Dela Hoya in their fight?

No I know you're a die hard Oscarsexual and a charter memeber. You thought Oscar won and basically using that to back your case. I've seen you do it in other threads. Don't play that game with me.

 

No, you haven't you fruity ass. BTW... I added on to that last post.

More like you see me arguing AGAINST that line of thinking when people (probably like yourself) post pictures of Vitali Klitschko's cuts as a reason why Lennox Lewis was a better fighter that night.

 

Anyone who thought Oscar won 7 rounds of that fight are summed up in these three things:
One you don't know **** about boxing
Two an Oscarsexual or
Three both one and two.

 

It is my opinion that the Oscar who Floyd faced, at 35 and coming off a year long lay-off, who later performed poorly against Forbes and Pacquiao was "deemed" a high reward/low risk option by Team Mayweather. Floyd Sr's knowledge of Oscar would've been passed on to Brother and Son.

How is that re-writing history ?

 

Widdow has been an Oscarsexual and Klithugger since 2003 on this forum, hes part of the furniture, funny guy none the less. Sorry to here about your bro Widdow, I remember chatting to him back in 05

 

No way. The win was as important to him as the money. He was definately afraid to lose. It was probably the most conservative he's ever fought.

 

Mosley was a lightweight, Chavez was just about shot, Camacho was weight drained..



:yep

 

He demolished him because that was his last fight. As marketable fighters get older they fight less frequently. If he hadn't fought in a year, then it means he hasn't shown signs he has become a low-risk fighter during that period either.

Of course he is going to have some problems with those two opponents: Sturm is a world class fighter and Hopkins (not only naturally a huge middleweight) is a certified legend of the middleweight division. My point is even though he fell short Oscar can comfortably make that weight and still be competitive even though it is not his optimal size. I'm sure he could have looked exceptional if he cherry-picked top B-classers rather than face the elite like Howard Eastman, Sam Soliman and William Joppy.

Tito was always a ferocious puncher, so I'm not sure what statement you are trying to make here.

Let's get one thing clear: I'm not saying Oscar was at his absolute best, but he was still a very lively and dangerous opponent at JMW -especially against a smaller Mayweather. Without the power of hindsight at JMW, we have Oscar KO Mayorga, losing a very close fight with Mosley, and 3 good wins against Campas, Vargas and Castillijo. At what point was it clear he became a low-risk fighter? I'd argue his skills had visibly dimished during the Mayorga fight but that was because they were at such a high standard in his prime, and certainly didn't give reason to believe he became low-risk.

At best this was a high reward to a medium-high risk for Floyd. Yes Floyd did go in as favourite, but not by a large margin against Oscar. The big variable was Mayweather had to move out of his weight comfort zone into Oscar's comfortable weight.

I can see what you're doing by making Oscar out to be a low-risk fighter it diminishes Mayweather's achievements and you can argue he was cherry picked.

 

I distinctly remember Widdow coming on here after the fight for months claiming DLH won 7-5.

And then in an interview Millie said she thought it shouldve been a draw...

 

This was thought of to be a toss up fight before it happened, and the same people who are diminishing this win said before the fight that this was the "first good fighter he's ever fought," just like they said before he fought Hatton, before he fought Mosley. Ater the fight: cherrypicked, i knew he would dominate, blah blah blah. Just give credit where credit is due. You dont have to like a guy to give him credit.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

floyd truly believes hes the best and cant be beat...

 

:yep:deal

 

I agree, Floyd gets in the ring and makes a good fighter look horrible.