Was Freddie Brown more instrumental in Shaping Duran's skills than Arcel?

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arcel gets a lot of the credit, and he was truly great both in the ring and out. I'm just curious though, if Brown was more instrumental in making Duran who he became skill wise?
     
  2. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alot of his skill was just natural, things that cant be taught. Duran had a kind of fighters 6th sense similar to james toney. I believe arcel's inflence was much stronger as a cornerman similar to dundee
     
  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I believe Brown had more impact on Duran`s actual fighting skills that he developed through the 70s. He worked and spent more time with Duran throughout his training camp. Arcel probably added a lot too also as fine a cornerman as there ever was.

    Freddie Brown I believe was responsible for some of Duran`s infighting finesse. I think it was his teaching`s more than anyone else. Ofcourse Duran had to have the ability and poised to execute it.
     
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  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Duran himself gives the credit to Brown.
    He said Arcel for the most part came in 2 weeks befor the fight
     
  5. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arcel to me was more of a conditioning coach than a technical boxing skill trainer.
     
  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    He used to do roadwork with his fighters. Ray Arcel had been a runner in his younger days.
     
  7. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Probably brown...but arcel was a master strategist...psychologist...and conditioner
     
  8. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Once asked a Duran sparring partner about arcel he said he's the greatest trainer god invented
     
  9. frankwornank

    frankwornank Active Member Full Member

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    Arcel and Brown were associated with hundreds of fighter that never made it. Durans' success was totally Duran. This business of trainers helping fighters is very over-rated.