Was Freddie Steele Modern Enough?

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Was he sufficiently modern to hang with today's middleweight phenoms?

    If not, on exactly which date would his skillset betray him? Bonus points if you can name the hour and minute.

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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    To my untrained eye he looks terrific, but I would need the assistance of a video maker to interpret what I am actually looking at because I obviously cannot trust just my own eyes to give me a definitive verdict!
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Steele looks to me to be a super natural talent. One of those guys that instinctively goes out there and has the creativity and ferocity to do the right thing automatically. He can fight inside and out.

    I suspect that he might run into trouble against a great jabber and systematic fighter. A Monzon or a Hagler or maybe a Golovkin. While he's really fast and powerful, he doesn't seem to set up his shots from behind a jab; he might have trouble with guys that use footwork to create space and fight from behind a jab. (Of course, 3 minutes is a very short clip to draw judgment on a man's entire career.)

    That said, he seems to have a natural knack for angles and evasion. If you tell me modern fighters might have an advantage because of their systems, then send him to the Ukrainian school for a couple of years. Some of what he does already seems Lomachenko / Derevyanchenko like, way before them.
     
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  4. Unforgiven

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    He fought too often to be modern.
     
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Steele would unfortunately lose his skill on April 1st 1939.

    He would then somehow lose it again April 1st 2019, beyond the grave.
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Seriously though, Steele could hang with any Middleweight in history, and would cause a few upsets I feel.
     
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  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    He doesn't look anywhere near as good as Carnera.
    Your eyes must be betraying you Mcvey!
     
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  8. mcvey

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    I give way to my right honourable friend!
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Freddie Steele hangs with anyone anyplace anytime
     
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  10. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, fellas, Freddie Steele's my man. You can't have him!!
     
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  11. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    sounds like a challenge :) .
     
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  12. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, I'm from Seattle and have collected stuff about Steele a long time. I'm just glad to see him getting some long-deserved recognition.
     
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  13. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just kidding my friend, im a big Steele cheerleader myself. Funny enough, it was on this forum, and ol' burts posts on him in particular, who pointed me in his direction
     
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    There was a guy on here years back, Ukraninan someone or another, who was a big fan, also. He had some good contributions.

    Where is your Al Hostak collection? I actually got to meet him down in Georgetown decades ago.
     
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  15. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Steele beats Robinson at MW.
     
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