Was GGG more feared than Usyk?

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  1. BCS8

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    Wow, I'm continually impressed by your ability to ignore the fact that Ward wanted Golovkin to come up in weight to 168, and then when he did, refused to fight him. Do you do any jogging? I bet if you do your single braincell makes a rattling sound as it bounces around inside that empty skull of yours.
     
  2. Scar

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    The only one that made a career ducking any form of risk was Gennady "The Tomato Can Devourer" Golovkin.
    If he truly wanted that fight, he would have forced for it by moving up and making noise up there. Realistically, he was more interested in moving Welterweights up to him. And that's exactly what he did.

    Ward had zero reasons to move down in weight to fight a farce who's biggest win was Rubio.
     
  3. BCS8

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    Except, of course, that he'd been spouting off about fighting Golovkin for years and when the smoke finally came home he dropped a load in his pants and cried for mommy.
     
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    Golovkin, on the other hand, went on to explode into arenas as a 100/1 favorite against hopeless opponents like Lemieux.
     
  5. miniq

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    Usyk can adapt and isn't one dimensional.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    :crybaby2: Still blubbering that his hero Andre "Bored" Ward didn't have the same stones Lemieux had to step into the ring with GGG.
     
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  7. Scar

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    Countless tomato cans had the "stones" to step into the ring with the farce too.
    An accomplished big name isn't going to move down in weight to fight an unknown with a joke record.

    In the end, your hero got his free payday against a smaller opponent and lost twice. That's all he will be remembered for.
     
  8. YCGS

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    I feel like people are delusional about GGG. Every top level fighter he fought withstood his power. Not only that but you could argue he lost almost all of those fights. Danny, Devrechenko and 3X Canelo are the best fighters he faced and I don't think that is debatable at all. ZERO knockouts in those 5 fights and none of those guys were on their bikes. They all came to win. There are occasions you can look at a resume and say "so and so couldn't even KO bum-guy" and it is usually because that guy ran all night. No such excuse exists for those guys.

    GGG is one of the biggest phonies and crybabies boxing has seen. The guy even lies when he wins! When an underdog didn't get blasted out GGG would actually say in the interview that he carried the guy and make it seem like he was being a nice guy and that "This is box" garbage. He got a raw deal in GGG/Canelo 1, of that I truly believe. But again, with the excuses saying essentially Canelo was running.

    Cue up GGG/Canelo 2 and Canelo is literally standing in the middle of the ring and it's GGG who is on the move. Then he cries about the loss and forgets how to speak English all of a sudden. After the 3rd and convincing L the guy goes into full on hiding and leaves boxing with a whimper.

    He was willing to fight Mayweather or Pac at 154, but not Canelo at 155 or Andre Ward at 164. Those are all verifiable facts and tells you everything you need to know about this phony. Don't misquote me, he was a really really good fighter and a top fighter but he wasn't a generational talent either and never once dared to be great.
     
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  9. Scar

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    He wasn't interested in taking any risks. Social media was on the rise back then and their strategy was to take on bums and deceive a gullible group (just take a look at the idiocy of his fans). His team was primarily aiming to score a free payday against a smaller opponent.

    If he truly wanted fights with the likes of Froch and Ward, he would have moved up and made some noise and force these fights. Clearly that wasn't the plan. You can see how shameless this guy is, talking about Ward and Froch only to schedule a fight with Welterweight Brook...

    In the end, he got his free payday against a smaller opponent and lost twice.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    Ward is also part of Golovkin's legacy. He's one of a list of guys that said they wanted to fight him and then blew their arse out when the smokeshow came to town. A worthy legacy for Droopy Dawg.
     
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  11. Scar

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    Yet, in the end, Ward moved on to fight undefeated Kovalev twice while Golovkin went on to Welterweights and Jr. Middleweights.
     
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  12. Scar

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    Against bums.
     
  13. BCS8

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    That's right, Ward moved on and studiously avoided fighting Golovkin.
     
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  14. Scar

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    Meanwhile, Golovkin continued his campaign to call out Welterweights for paydays while feasting on hopeless bums.
     
  15. Boxed Ears

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    The one thing it is impossible to forget in all of this conversation is that men who choose to box for a living have always feared being punched, and it's a matter of degrees, where the harder the puncher, the greater the fear, and it's a linear, dose-response model. So, clearly, p4p Usyk would be far, far less feared, but because of non-pound-for-pound models, we must conclude that it is impossible to say as an absolute and that is why we have philosophical threads like this for us to mull over and I thank you for that.
     
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