Was GGG more feared than Usyk?

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Was Usyk avoided the way 3G was?
     
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  2. BCS8

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    Oh **** you are right. My apologies.
     
  3. BCS8

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    No.

    You can argue Usyk is better, but he is certainly not more avoided.
     
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  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Can buy that
     
  5. Scar

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    Because Gennady "The Tomato Can Devourer" Golovkin was busy calling out Welterweights for paydays while feasting on bums.
     
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  6. The Real Lance

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    No jack@ss, both were sat down TOGETHER w/ HBO and 3G said yes, while Ward blamed his shoulder inury/promoter issues as his reason to say no.

    3G never called out any WW BTW. You're just gullible enough to believe anything.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Why did Ward urinate in his pants then
     
  8. Scar

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    The urine found was Gennady "The Tomato Can Devourer" Golovkin's urine.
    Any request to move up in weight and take risks would make the Tomato Can Devourer **** his pants on spot.

    That's why he was only interested in begging Welterweights for paydays.
     
  9. BCS8

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    And yet he offered to move up in weight and fight Ward.

    Must be nice living in Froopyland like Scar :rolleyes:
     
  10. Reg

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    GGG resided in a popular division alongside Canelo. Losing to GGG meant kissing your Canelo payday bye in most cases. For that reason, he was far more feared.
     
  11. AdamT

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    Ward never ducked GGG, he was already at 175
    3g ducked the stronger division 168 for years to feast on bums and call out 147 mayweather
     
  12. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I definitely think most MWs viewed GGG as the lesser preferred opponent, but I dont think professional fighters fear one another. Some may say they fear losing but I dont think any of them are afraid of another man. Mike Tyson said he was scared to death every time he got in the ring but I dont think thats the same as being scared of a particular person/opponent.

    People took their time in facing GGG and GGG was just very unlucky in that his best opponents Sergio and Pirog got injured/retired. His career would have been much different had he gotten those fights then.

    GGG didnt do himself favors though. He famously offered Rosado a catchweight which Rosado turned down, but then wouldn't offer Canelo or Cotto a catchweight. Its okay to stand on principles but he could have gotten Canelo sooner and/or Cotto. And it definitely didnt help that GGG offered to fight JCC Jr and Froch at 168 but demanded 164 for Andre Ward.

    GGG is a Top 10 MW EVER in my opinion and he was 1-0-1 versus Canelo. I dont even count fight three. But its silly to pretend he didnt play a part in not getting those marquee fights.
     
  13. Cafe

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    I disagree with your first statement somewhat to be honest, if you know how competitors' minds/egos work, they could absolutely be scared. Look at how basketball players feared MJ for example, it's the fear of being exposed or being embarrassed to your peers and it's a very primal fear that we all (or most) are slaves to. There's letting down your coach, family, fans etc, when you are in a public eye - there's a lot of expectations on your shoulders. Not to mention, you have a certain level of belief or pride even in your craft that you might be afraid isn't enough.

    When it comes to fighters, this can be exacerbated further, one it's an individual sport, secondly being embarrassed isn't just "Oh this guy destroyed me in the craft I dedicated my life to", it's getting beat up and if you ever got beat up in sparring or IDK a match it's not a nice feeling, you feel less of a man when that happens. Not to mention in boxing, your undefeated record is often your brand. So even business wise there's a lot to fear in losing that. However, I differentiate between calculated business moves and being afraid of your career being destroyed and taking steps to prevent that from happening, it's a subtle distinction but a distinction nonetheless, first is motivated by maximizing capital, the first is more so inspired by fear of loss.
     
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  14. African Cobra

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    He never was invincible or viewed as such. Floyd’s ginger haired son Canelo who Floyd tutored and spanked like a naughty juvenile beat Lil G.
     
  15. Scar

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    He offered in your imagination, bogus interviews, and on twitter.
    Realistically, he remained feasting on bums at Middleweight while begging Welterweights for paydays.