Was Golovkin Actually in his Prime when he fought Canelo?

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  1. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Of course he wasn't but he was still good enough to beat him first time, he clearly lost the 2nd time though but was more faded.
     
  2. james5000

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    I still think the ibf weigh in ruins GGG, bloke cuts from 190 or at least 185.

    Never seen a bigger middleweight
     
  3. james5000

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    GGG should do a bhop and jump to 175 might add years to his career
     
  4. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he wasn't. But the main problem, alongside the judges, was Canelo's illegal physical enhancement. I believe that's another reason he ducked Golovkin for a while, to 'adjust to MW' with plenty of chemical help.
     
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  5. sparta

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    Physicality is only one element towards a boxer being in his prime. Boxing is approx 80% MENTAL! 35 is not old in itself, its the fighters boxing style, ring experiences & out of ring experiences that make him old. It is not the number that automatically makes the fighter old.
     
  6. sparta

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    Ggg is not a big middleweight, if that was the case he would of moved up years ago, he still obviously makes the weight comfortable.
     
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  7. TFP

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    Past his absolute peak, certainly, but going on performance still, just about, in his prime years as a boxer, albeit towards the very tail end of them.
     
  8. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    B-Hop aside (who was probably really was an Alien lol), name any other fighter you would say was Prime @ 35 years old?

    Not many elites fight on past that age, and the ones that do generally are not regarded as Prime.

    I think the start of GGG's physical decline could be seen all the way back in the Brook and Jacob's fights. Slight, but it was there.
     
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  9. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No Lies detected.!!!
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    Calzaghe
    Froch
    Martinez
    Adonis Stevenson
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Mayweather
    Pacquaio
    Wilder
    Mike McCallum
    Toney Bellew
    Arthur Beterbeiev
    Alexander Povetkin
    Glen Johnson
    Antonio Tarver
    Lennox Lewis
    Roy Jones Jr - HW Champ at 35
     
  11. 22JM

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    GGG fights bums wow what a "monster " ggg fights elites Jacbos Canelo and deverenko and hes "shot" isn't too obvious?? Or are you so dumb to see??
     
  12. Surrix

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    This is common thing told in forums.
    If so, everything is mental. Damn, you need also to train on daily basis, train for pre fights camps, pre fights camps.


    HW last longer because they does not have to make weight.
    Age makes sense also at HW, the same Lewis had retired when he was 38, Pov and Klits are considered as not in prime since 37 y.o, Holmes too is considered as not in prime since 37. while yeah, at 35-36 looks that they were yet not too old.

    Smaller boxers, I think nor Floyd Jr nor GGG were in their prime when they were 36 y.o.
    Pacman too, ofc he was capable and good when he was 36, still I don't think that this was prime Pacman.

    There are some historical iconic specimens: boxers with very good performance after 40 y.o age, not large number of them.
    Such unique ppl are in low numbers.
     
  13. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Were they all really prime at that age though, or was it that they were still elite, and had compensated?

    At least Zags, Mayweather, Froch most definitley were past prime at 35 - even though RJJ won Heavyweight at 35 I still think his absolute prime was a few years before, you could start to see his reflexes slowing down from the 'Superman' that shutout Toney.

    But maybe there are a few more to consider than I had originally figured.
     
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  14. sparta

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    Thats a decent list, i couldnt be bothered lol
     
  15. sparta

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    They dont fight on not because they cant, because the have made the money and the fire is no longer there. Some amazing 35yo athletes on this planet, it aint that old, especially fighters with high boxing iq who rely on ring smarts, skill, experience etc.
     
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