Was Golovkin Actually in his Prime when he fought Canelo?

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  1. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo avoided him for a while and when they finally fought the first time, most people thought GGG won. For the second fight GGG was past prime.
     
  2. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Go to your room and FFS put some lotion on your ashy arms $ legs
     
  3. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    He dropped the belt but his nutz sac had yet to drop son.
     
  4. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    This
     
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  5. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha Ha ha brilliant ,made me lol, well done picky 'ed..
     
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  6. Salty Dog

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    You make a good case here (especially the 430 prior fights,imo), but he looked pretty damn good the first time around. He wasn't past it by much and the fact that it was his biggest fight probably counteracted his age some. I can't imagine him being more "up" for a fight. That he got jobbed out of his greatest win probably didn't help going forward.
     
  7. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah and still there is wear and tear and mileage.
    Also he is too small for LHW for example.
    While some ppl here pick Canelo to beat DM or prime 30-35 y.o Beterbiev versions or Gvozdyk versions, I don't gave too much for prime GGG to beat them up, not alone canelo with horsemeat.


    pro boxing is business.
     
  8. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The use of the word "prime" seems to be a bit confusing in the context of boxing. Many here are conflating it with the time when a fighter had his best wins or appeared most dominant, such as Wladimir Klitschko. Those examples can be faulty in part because a boxer can have diminished physical attributes but still perform at a high level, whether through stylistic reform, his overall skill level, the lack of competition, etc. To me, there has to be a synthesis of performance and physical wherewithal for it to be a fighter's true prime. In that regard, almost none of the names listed as being "prime" at 35 or older were actually at their peaks.

    Take Joe Calzaghe as an example. Sure, his most significant win was at 36, but moving up to 175 meant that he lost a physical advantage he held at 168. The added weight and age meant he didn't have the motor he had at 168, and, as is well known, his hand problems meant that he was hitting with less power than he used to. At 36, was Calzaghe really in his prime? He didn't look like it to me, nor did Jones, Pacquiao, McCallum, Mayweather, etc.

    Likewise, when Lomachenko jumped up from 126 to 130, did he enter his prime because he became more savvy, or did he become slightly past it, because after all, he was less strong, less fast, etc. relative to the class once he made the move. Certainly, it seems, he would have been more dominant if he chose to develop at 126.

    In the case of Golovkin, he was an aggressor who had a long amateur career, meaning that the case against him being in his prime at 35 is stronger. Physically you have already started the descent, even if it is slow. I think it was most apparent in his hand-speed and fluidity, which he exhibited a greater deal of in his late 20s.

    I think we have missed the primes of nearly every boxer who has come out of a former communist country in recent years. Beterbiev, Gvozdyk, Lomachenko, Rigondeaux, etc. gave too much of their talent away in the amateurs and started in the pros too late for us to know how good they could have been. Imagine if those guys had entered the paid ranks in their early 20s.
     
  9. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What? You actually think Canelo is the same since the first ggg fight?? I don't he has improved and learned from those fights.
     
  10. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    camelo was in prime and juiced up , unfortunately for ginger he got beaten twice by a past prime 36 and then 37 yo GGG . First fight was clear W for GGG.
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFL
     
  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Stop using my name in vain you silly boy lol
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO Jacbos & deverenko !! This guy is hilarious he aint got a clue
     
  14. gdm

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    30-33 year old GGG would have stopped canelo, that’s why they waited for as long as they could . And Clen was on juice.
     
  15. C.J.

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    Calzaghe PUNCH!! output ?? LOL When did he PUNCH! ?lol