Was Harry Wills a greater HEAVYWEIGHT than Sam Langford ?

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  1. Sonny's jab

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    Wills or Langford ?

    Who rates higher at heavyweight ?
     
  2. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wills, of course.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wills should rate far above Langford at HW. His resume is amazing, on resume alone he rates above Dempsey. Arguably Wills was the best HW in the world from 1912-1926

    P4P Langford rates higher
     
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  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wills as my #15 Heavy; Langford #16.
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Langford.

    The series between them dose not tell the whole story because Langford was on the decline when it started.

    Wills to a certain extent swept up the remenats of the black dynamite trio, Langford, Jeanette, McVea.

    Contemporary fighters were in awe of Langford while they saw Wills as ugly but efective.
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Langford was past his prime when he engaged in his series with Wills.
    Langford also scored 2 clean KO'S over the much larger Wills.
    As far as I know there arent any ring historians who saw them both fight that rate Wills as the better fighter,that vote is reserved for Langford.
    From what Ive read I believe Wills to be a bit overated.
    Even the esteemed Ray Arcel didnt think Wills was considered a great fighter.
     
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  7. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Langford was well past his prime for most of the Wills fights. And I don't consider being an ABC beltholder to effect a fighter's historical standing. Being "colored champion" is much more significant in my eyes, since the colored title actually represented a large portion of the division, wasn't full of bogus rankings and money-making maneuvers, and didn't constantly strip its own champions for no good reason.
     
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  8. Rspen46

    Rspen46 Member Full Member

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    Yes by Far, he was #1 contender for a very long time, Dempsey should have fought Wills then and he would easily have beaten him the same way Uzcudun did.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    This is about right for me, Wills slightly above.
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Uzcudun fought a thirty-five year old Harry WIlls way past his prime who held no win over even a fringe contender for two years and who hadn't even won a fight for nearly that long.

    There is literally no reason at all to favour Uzcudun over Langford in analysing Dempsey's chances against Wills.
     
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  11. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Insanity is ruling the roost here Robert. Revisionist bigger is always better horse ****. Lol. Madness of the younger poster.
     
  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think Wills was better as a Heavyweight, certainly more dominant.

    Langford did have the better competition, not a lot in it for me.
     
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  13. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Langford
     
  14. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Langford but not by much
     
  15. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    I am resurrecting this old thread because my Dad, Brother, and I are looking into this very question right now. Prime vs. prime, so far, my dad and I slightly favor Sam Langford, while my brother seems to slightly favor Harry Wills. Does anybody here, in 2025, have anything to add to this nearly 18 year old thread?
     
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