Was Hector Camacho the best pure boxer of the last 40 years?

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    The best pure boxer of the last 40 years? Holmes or Whitaker.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Hearns has to be seriously considered. I'd take him over Holmes in fact.
     
  3. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    He did outbox Benitez and Leonard.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    Quite handily as well. Interestingly enough, I thought Leonard beat Benitez more convincingly than Hearns did, and not just because of the stoppage. Anyone doubting Leonard's ability just needs to watch that fight.
     
  5. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Hearns is right up there, no question. But I would opt for Whitaker and Holmes over him based on they showed their boxing more often as they never relied on power as much. It was more forthright to the mind. Hearns' overall style is that of a boxer more than a puncher though. Against Leonard and Benitez he was sublime at long range behind the jab, and later against Hill at light-heavyweight.
     
  6. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robbi must have just watched a replay of the Camacho-Leonard destruction.

    Ray Leonard was the best runner of the last 40 years. I think by the end of the 1980's people were just fed up with his antics. Luckily for true boxing fans like myself, the emergence of Terrible Terry Norris ushered out the age of saccharin Ray leonard from existence.

    The best pure boxer since 1960's? Why Camacho of course-I've always said that and many people here just can't handle that fact, like SuzieQ. His main man was outboxed by my main man AND punched to pieces too. He took leonard's heart away then had him for lunch. Anyone could see Ray was shitting in his pants by the 3rd round. Hector took his best shots and kept coming forward, like a little version of Hagler.

    Yes, Camacho could slug when he wanted to. :yep And the best part of all, Hector with his total domination and annihilation was the one to finally put a stop to all the fake retirements once and for all. :smoke

    To quote: "After I'm done with him, it's the last time he ever comes back to boxing-I guarantee it!" And lived up to his promise, Joe Namath style.

    BTW, where was all the talk about his running after the fight with Leonard?
     
  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    What kind of post is this? Your talking up a Camacho win over an old Leonard like it means something. I assume your post goes back to something personal with other posters here to talk like this because you surely cant mean it.

    Camacho was an amazing boxer when he was younger, but to denegrate Leonard like this is ridiculous.
     
  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's not pretend this has anything to do with animosity towards the others. The fact is, I wasn't the one who made this thread! It was someone else trying to bait me but I shut them all down this time.

    Truth is, if leonard were half the fighter everyone keeps saying, he should have done more with his career instead of wasting his potential and coming out every 3 or 4 years the way he kept doing.

    Typical of how he picked his fights, Leonard thought he could take Camacho in a fight so he stepped out of his shell once again like the big man that he is but paid the price. I thought the Norris ass whipping was enough reason for him to stay put.

    And despite what eveyone keeps saying about Camacho and his being a runner, it was Hector who forced the fight and had Leonard back on his heels. Hector, the smaller man by at least three weight classes, had the bigger man backing up in terror and then knocked him out. Why does Hector get branded the runner and leonard doesn't? Didn't people see Duran-Leonard 2 & 3? he's a runner and even got booed for it then he said on camera "to hell with the crowd"

    This is why no one here has said **** to me since I posted this because they know my man Hector had their man Leonard on the run and got the "KO". It's all about results. And performance and who gets bragging rights then talking about it afterwards. Let's not pretend anything different.

    We all know it is and the fact is, Hector Camacho fans all get the satisfaction of telling how their man 3 natural weight classes down, humbled their man with a knockout and all his fans aftrwards. This is not some disputed spilt decision. No, this was a decisive knockout-even more decisive than Terry Norris' shutout on the scorecards.

    I never saw so many people in an audience turn white as I had seen that night. Never saw so many people having a panic attack and wind up in tears, all of them thinking "what will the world think if Hector Camacho beats and knocks out Sugar Ray Leonard!" Well, that's the way it happened like it or not. Hector, past his prime Hector, beat past his prime Ray Leonard.

    So all in all it was an even fight with Leonard's edge in big fight experience and size, but Hector won this one because deep down Hector had more where it counts.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

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    I agree with sweet pea on this one. Jab is not the only thing that defines "pure boxing". Alot more other attributes that you need.


    When I look at pure boxers, I am huge on Boxing fundamentals. That is my # 1 criteria. Then I look at the rest.
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    You're a great entertainer. Keep up the good work.
     
  11. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Obviously I would have to be privy to the trappings of the classic forum to understand and decipher all of this nonsense, which I am not.

    But suffice to say that your post is similar in many ways to what Pac fans call "bragging rights" in the gernal forum. Childish to say the least.
     
  12. Sweet Pea

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    Rooster is the PacDBest, Johnco, Bigtime9 of the Classic Forum. In that he is a much more eloquent poster than any of them, but the general idea behind his points is just as biased.
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And acb is another poster putting on his dumb act pretending he can't read.
     
  14. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    My reading is fine, or at least good enough to comprehend that you are biased enough to not even attempt to reason with you. Your mind has been made up on this for long enough, no?
     
  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We are all biased. If you are a sports fan you are going to be biased.
    if people think it's okay to label Camacho a runner then what does that say about Leonard fans? You KNOW they are biased! ANyone who's seen Leonard fight know that he is first and foremost a runner. Leonard can be the agressor at times but so can Camacho as you saw against the two gold medlaists Howard Davis and Ray Leonard. he ****ed them up!

    And i don't have to remind you about Terry Norris who treated Ray like the rag he is. :lol: Not even all his running could save him because as Joe Louis would say he can run but he can't hide!

    And that's how you fight a runner like ray Leonard. :yep