Was Holmes , Tyson s Peak Performance?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In retrospect it certainly appears that way . Holmes , despite fighting on till 2002 was never stopped again and apart from the Butterbean ft ?was never even knocked down .
    So , to look at , imo , Tyson ko 4 Holmes , was his peak performance .
     
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  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No , I'd say Spinks, Holmes timing was way off for that fight even for a 38 year old who hadn't been active and Tyson did very little up until he caught Holmes
     
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  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Tyson was absolute peak in all his 1988 fights.
    Holmes, Tubbs, Spinks.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I get that ,he looked unbeatable in 88 . It's just what the fighter s he beat went on to do . Holmes came close ish to winning a belt again 7 years later . Yet Tyson destroyed him ,made him look finished tbh .
     
  5. JamesFosterGB

    JamesFosterGB New Member Full Member

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    True and he was supposed to polish off Frank Bruno in the autumn of 1988 in London at Wembley Stadium. Then he ran into another tough guy. The infamous Mitch Green inside Dapper Don in Harlem. Tyson broke his hand and Mitch Blood Green got a black eye. True story.




    Yes Tyson was in his pomp in 1988 and he looked almost unbeatable like Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano. But that year was the beginning of the end. He fell in love with that horrible social climbing gold digger Robyn Givens. She was spending his money on herself and her mother.She spent millions of dollars on that Kenilworth, Bernardsville NJ mansion And she wanted control of his business affairs.
    Then Jim Jacobs died. And that was that. Don King took over and prostiuted Tyson. Bill Cayton was out and then Rooney. What a shame. I don't think we will ever see a 21 year old undisputed lineal ring magazine world heavyweight champion.
     
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  6. BoxingDialogue

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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bigg s was a good performance but he wasn't all that to begin with and he never did anything after , but a good fight .
     
  8. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders NSB defector Full Member

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    Tyson peaked the night of the Seldon fight, during which he ascended to a higher state of being, knocking out Seldon with the air blast radius of a missed punch.
     
  9. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Tyson crammed in Holmes, Tubbs and Spinks in the first half of the year. That's 6 months! Incredible. Yes, Tyson peaked that year and won Fighter of the Year for 1988 despite not defending again until February 1989.

    As JamesFoster posted above, Cayton had a plan for a world tour that would've followed. Bruno was to be next in England, Damiani in Italy, Foreman in China, Ruddock in Canada, Adilson Rodriguez in Brazil and then Holyfield somewhere along the lines as the next SuperFight in Vegas.
     
  10. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not for me, Holmes had a couple of moments, when he got up on his toes.
    The Pinklon Thomas fight was pretty convincing imo.
     
  11. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, you can't have your peak performance against a guy well past his prime with marginal reflexes left. That doesn't work all that well in determining how good a fighter looks against another.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes fought a fighter that was outboxed by Bruno in McCall for the title and look what Mike did to Frank twice, even though he fought far better v Holmes.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No the Spinks fight was Tyson`s best, he was awesome and getting better with each fight at that stage.
     
  14. Golden_Feather99

    Golden_Feather99 Active Member Full Member

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    What about Ali vs Williams?
     
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  15. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was a perfect execution of how to settle old scores from past amateur days by carrying an opponent for several punishing rounds and gradually and painfully breaking them down physically and mentally but always stopping short of an actual stoppage until they decided that the time was right. To cap it all off, Tyson completes the humiliation by telling everyone in the post fight interview in the ring what a good time he was having during the fight and that Biggs was crying out like a girl every time he got hit by a body shot.
     


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