Was Johnson Close to Defeat in the Flynn Rematch ...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by he grant, Sep 13, 2016.


  1. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My 2 cents who gives a sh it youtube has more and are willing to share some selfish pysstorian has 3k plus and brags about what he has and us peons dont wah!!
    With all those vid's and all his collection of articles he still is guessing how Greb fought and worst of all he DKSAB lol.
    Now "many alts" has a new alt, whatever happened to Rocky Valdez, lord tiepin and more to come, yessir.
    FYI many alts plus one, you can make your point without name calling. Why dont you post the whole Johnson fight so that we can judge for ourselves, bet you dont.
     
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  2. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just to clarify, i was agreeing that flynn's headbutts were comical and that johnson won by a mile, didn't realise the op was trying to say flynn was in the fight. I suppose i would agree that flynn was fresher at the end, but he was fresher at the start too.

    most of klomptons >3k fights are on youtube, but when he has seen a fight you haven't, which he has for all of us, just admit it and accept what he says about it.
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Johnson didn't win, Flynn was disqualified for headbutts done in frustration for Johnson's constant holding .. if you would agree that Flynn was fresher then you have to admit that Johnson was not in terrific shape and in a forty five round bout who knew what was going to happen ..
     
  4. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    aka: a win. not sure what ruleset you are following where the other guy getting dq'd isn't a win.

    nobody knows what was going to happen, but if you are controlling the man by legal means and he is headbutting then you are clearly controllong the fight.

    45 rds, i have no idea what happens, but after 8 flynn was reduced to fouling and was dq'd rather than stop doing it. this tells me he didn't fancy his chances. If he felt he would win in the second half why not make an effort to at least reach rd 13?
     
  5. dempsey1234

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    KF, Your suggestion would be fine if "many alts plus one" aka kr apper 2, would be an unbiased poster but he is known to cherry pick his posts to fit whatever agenda he is commenting on. Take the Dempsey - Greb ducking, he posts what suits him and disregards what was the thinking of many at the time, that Greb was only a MW, and thus too small for Dempsey. This da great kr apper disregards. Why not just post the whole fight and let us decide what's what.
     
  6. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    because if you haven't seen the fight and he has you don't have a leg to stand on.

    my view of carp v siki is very different to his, but by his description of the fight i know he is biased and his view isn't to be taken seriously. Outside of obvious nonsense his view of fights has been shown to be accurate, so when talking about a fight that has nothing to do with greb i see no specific reason to doubt him.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Yes, more than 3,000. I agree with you :). The thing is you act like you have an account on this fight. Several a ringside said Johnson was tiring. They were there, you were not born. The film itself is poorly filmed. The fighters heads are outside the screen at times!

    Tell you what Klompton, I'll email your list to agreed upon 3rd party here, and you do the same. While you might change up the order and delete and add more info, that would take a while. When I press you for details you often go silent.

    As for HeGrant his Holmes doc is very good. Have you seen it? And what film have you had a hand in making?
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    You had it right the first time, Klompton is one person less popular that you. You saw Hauge too, or at least you thought you did. I have not seen the Greb film in question. It's over a 1,000 miles away from me. I only mentioned some have and think it was Greb.

    I'm not going to spend any more time talking about other fights in this thread. Johnson vs Flynn is good enough. And Klompton thinks he has a monopoly on all facts and a big eraser to what several said at ringside. It doesn't get more classic than that!
     
  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Not necessarily .. Johnson was known to hold and hold and hold and it becomes a ref's fight to decide to what degree he can hold .. I'm a huge Johnson fan but have no problem seeing that he looked tired, he was clearly fat, he never remotely hurt Flynn, Flynn looked far more energetic and butted, as illegal as it waste cause he would not stop being held .. three years earlier when Johnson was clocked by Ketchel he exploded and took Stanley out .. here he did nothing but continue to hold on .. I just say it is possible that Johnson took this lightly and was not upset to have it end against a highly motivated challenger who he did not hurt and was fresher than he was on this one fight ..
     
  10. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everybody is entitled to think what they want but da kr apper has shown he really doesnt understand what he is seeing or boxing period. What is wrong about saying that we should see for ourselves. You want to believe him fine, I dont and that should be fine also.
     
  11. Senya13

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    Once again, Flynn wasn't disqualified. Johnson was declared the winner on points after the bout was stopped.
     
  12. mcvey

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    The referee said Flynn was looking to get slung out because he knew he was losing.
    Something that Flynn told a reporter for the Kansas Star he would do before- hand if he was in danger of being stopped.
    The referee also said Flynn was free to punch but Johnson gripped his elbows so the punches were not delivered at full force.

    Here's some questions I 've asked several times on this thread and got no reply .How many long fights was Flynn in ?
    How many 20 rounders did he see the end of?
    Who has the more proven stamina Flynn or Johnson?
    I have to say you're like a dog with a bone here HE,apart from numerous testimonies that Johnson was not going all out,and several saying they thought Johnson was carrying Flynn,we have the greatest evidence imaginable ,our own eyes! They contradict your opinion 100% imo.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Havent seen Hauge ,lol haven't seen Hague either lol and neither have you, you brazen LIAR!
    As to the thread fight, I've posted the opinion of trainers,reporters and the referee they directly contradict the premise that Flynn was in with a shout,indeed the referee said Flynn was deliberately trying to get disqualified because he was losing badly,that will do for me!
    No one is going to give your opinion on the subject of Jack Johnson, a second thought Klan Man, so why keep p*ssing in the wind?
     
  14. Mendoza

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    I waste my time as you are incapable of learning, a bigot, a racist, and-and man who clearly at times has no clue of what he's watching. You have been schooled a few times in this thread.

    Which person at ringside ( Proof needed ) contradicts when Senya said?

    Do you even own this film? LOL.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Facts, primary quotes from boxing writers a ringside, and such have no place here to a select few.