Was Johnson Close to Defeat in the Flynn Rematch ...

Hate ,hate, hate. Klan Man.TKO in a sparring match! Spend some time learning the English language,then some more writing it, you come across like Rhasta Ali Goon! At least he has the excuse it isn't his first language!

 

When you have to play the race card, Tony, the conversation is not going your way. That much is proven! You so F'n sad. at times I almost pity you.

And by the way, the KKK would not like me. You have no idea who you're talking to. Stop hijacking this thread, and learn for a change.

 

I'm talking to a c**t.

 

Johnson complained of head butts not body punches. The ref of the fight stated emphatically that Johnson was not holding. Flynn was free to punch.

Johnson completely dominated the fight. In every way shape and form.

 

Now I've heard it all... Flynn was somehow winning the fight or going to be winning a fight he was getting his a55 kicked in.... yeah, makes sense to me LOL

 

• Referee Smith stated after the fight: "Jim Flynn disgraced everybody by fighting as foul a battle as a man can devise. . . . I was about to disqualify him and give the contest to the champion when the state police burst into the ring and declared the thing at an end."
• Syndicated boxing writer T.S. Andrews reported on July 5, 1912:

The fight was scheduled to go forty-five rounds, but in the ninth Capt. Fornoff of the state force, personal representative at the ringside of Governor McDonald, declared that it was no longer a boxing contest; that it was a brutal exhibition, and that Flynn's foul tactics made its continuance impossible. He jumped into the ring with his deputies and drove the fighters and officials who followed him to the corners. Referee Ed W. Smith then announced that Johnson had won and the fight was over.
Flynn displayed no ability throughout the fight. He was cut about the face until blood ran down his breast in a stream. He was utterly helpless from the first round on and by the sixth was deliberately trying to butt the champion's chin with his head. Time after time, as Johnson held him powerless in the clinches, Flynn jerked his head upward.
Smith warned him repeatedly, but it did no good. In the seventh he began leaping upward every time he could work his head under Johnson's chin. Flynn's feet were both off the floor time and again with the energy he put into his bounds. Sometimes he seemed to leap two feet into the air in frantic plunges at the elusive jaw above him.
Referee Smith forced Flynn back toward his corner half a dozen times. "Stop that butting," he would say, shaking his finger in Flynn's face. "Stop it or I will disqualify you."
"The — Negro's holding me," Flynn roared back. "He's holding me all the time. He's holding me like this," and he offered to illustrate on the referee. Smith evaded the blood smeared arms held toward him and waved the men together again.
In the next clinch—it was in the eighth round—Flynn flung himself upward again. Smith jumped between them and warned him once more. "Next time you do it I'll disqualify you," he shouted at Flynn, but changed his mind, for it happened again and again in that round and repeatedly in the ninth before the police took a hand.
Through it all the champion was grinning. He evaded Flynn's attack with the utmost ease, whether the Pueblo man led with his hands or with his head. Only once in the rounds did he show any wish to end the fight, and yet ringside opinion was unanimous that he could have put Flynn out at any time he happened to fancy, whether in the first or the ninth round.

 

San Fran Call. One of the most respected newspapers in terms of boxing coverage in the nation at that time:

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85066387/1912-07-05/ed-1/seq-12/

 

Great fighters don't find it easy beating men like Flynn, they only make it look easy.

At the end of the day they are still a flesh and blood man, taking punches from a heavyweight contender.

Johnson outfought Flynn, outthought him, and ultimately beat him.

If he was masking hidden adversity, then I suspect that most great fighters routinely did.

 

Completely wrong. It was a completely one sided fight. This shows when you watch the fight. I don't think the fight could be any more one sided.

 

Mendoza has a serious mental issue concerning Johnson. One of Boxings greatest all time and you instead distort the record. It does not matter Smith knocked Johnson down in sparring. Lots of strange things occur in training that would never happen in a real fight.

 

My point is that a fight that looks one sided, isn't always one sided in the mind of the winning fighter.

They are often like a swan, graceful on the surface, but paddling like hell underneath.

 

Ed W. Smith, the referee:
The Pueblo fireman claimed, and with some justice, that Johnson was not fighting him fairly. Perhaps so, for Johnson was guilty of the trick of jerking Flynn into him and slashing at him at the same time, an old trick as threadbare as the festive almanac joke, but one worked in exceptionally clever style by the champion.
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Flynn was rough and foul, but so was Johnson.

The champion's chief offense was his trick of sneaking his glove around behind Flynn's arm or shoulder, yanking him forward and at the same time driving in a punch with the other hand.

All around the ring there were cries that Johnson was holding. This uproar was started in the Flynn corner by the Flynn seconds. They knew something was coming off, but they couldn't quite get at it. Johnson wasn't holding as much as he was smothering Flynn at all stages. He placed his thumbs in Flynn's elbows and simply held the fireman's arms helpless, completely blocked. It took Flynn five or six rounds to realize that he was completely outgeneralled in this respect. It wasn't a foul move, because Flynn's arms were free in a way and he was able to tap Johnson's stomach and shortribs with both hands, but in a way that did not seem to do much damage.
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As it was a championship fight I could not see my right to end it quickly since both men were at fault in the foul work, but the state police took the matter out of my hands by climbing into the ring in the ninth round.

 

The Freeman
"As a result of his terrific beating Flynn's nose was broken, both eyes blackened, his cheeks laid open and his lips and ears blown up enormously.
Johnson bore no mark from this so called battle aside from slightly swollen lips from Flynns attempts to head butt."

"Flynn made a foul losing fight from the start. As early as the third round it was obvious he had no chance to win"

"Flynn thought Johnson had gone back but he was mistaken. It was Flynn who was standing still and Johnson passed him like a man on horseback".

"Flynn fought like a boy in the hands of his schoolmaster"

" Johnson evades Flynns attacks with the utmost ease"

And ALL of this is born out by watching the film of the bout. A one sided beating.

 

Indianapolis Freeman is not a proper source for a black vs white bout held in NM. Same as NY Age, and other black press.