Was Joyce's Chin Overrated Or Is Zhang Just That Powerful ?

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  1. JackTheChamp123

    JackTheChamp123 Member banned Full Member

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    I disagree on your scoring, but fact of the matter is that fight was competitive and close, and rematch worthy, but that time has passed. But Usyk mandatory isnt called, and if by any chance Fury-Usyk happens, Hrgovic will have 2 options, Zhang remtach and AJ (which Eddie mentioned).

    Those 2 carry the division right now, the best thing would be if Zhang attacked Fury and Hrgovic-Usyk, then unify.
     
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  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Where there is no kindness; no courage either Full Member

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    It's not that Joyce's chin is overrated, but Joyce is also overrated as a boxer. For starters, AJ, Wilder, and Hrgović would beat him. And the list doesn't end there.
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury won't fight neither. He is going to have another stinker after Ngannou. You can mark my words on that.
    Usyk next 2 fights are going to be Hrgovic and Zhang, if he beats Hrgovic.
     
  4. JackTheChamp123

    JackTheChamp123 Member banned Full Member

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    Fury should have been stripped long ago.
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It won't happen, as WBC is beyond corrupt and it's obvious Warren pays them. They also get 3% off Fury fights, so why would they strip him ?
    At this point there is only 1 Undisputed Champion and that's Usyk. Fury is just a pretender with a paper belt. WBC should not be considered a major belt by anyone.
     
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  6. JackTheChamp123

    JackTheChamp123 Member banned Full Member

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    Look, it could be worse-imagine Wilder as a champion, guy had 10 defences against nobodies
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    People do get that Big Bang is one of the top 3 hardest punchers in the division with devastating one shot power in both hands, right?

    He's also got quick hands, is very technically sound, is crafty and clever and sets traps, and obviously absolutely huge.

    How many 6'6'' 287lb HWs can you think of you can say all that about?
     
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  8. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joyce’s chin was very good but when you fight like him and his biggest assets were his durability and size advantage over most opponents, It was inevitable to see it tested against a larger and harder punching opponent. The thing I’ve noticed through the years is guys with a good chin who once knocked out or staggered badly usually it is indicative of the armor peeling back and their punch resistance starting to diminish. Joyce will not be able to fight big punchers or he will get stopped more often.

    His durability expiration date has arrived.
     
  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The KO punch was a right.
     
  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    It was a right hook from a southpaw stance. Not a conventional right hand. A right hook from a southpaw comes from an unusual angle. Nothing like a straight right.
     
  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Zhang was putting punches together and landing clean n the second and third. The stoppage hook was lights out on most chins. I'm actually impressed Joyce got back up so people like Froch saying his resistance is gone are wrong. A guys who's chin is gone is Dubois.
     
  12. Joy_Rones

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    Dubois showed good whiskers against Hrgo
     
  13. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Joyce's chin allowed him to walk through the biggest punches Dubois could land and eventually stop him. That was 100% his chin.

    Zhang just hits too hard and with too much accuracy.

    Joyce's chin is probably cracked now but it was very good.
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

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    Joyce has very good punch resistance. He regularly takes shots flush on the chin from big hitters without visible effect. It's what nets him a lot of his success. Most fighters back off after taking a big shot, but Joyce keeps ploughing forward throwing shots with no worry about what's coming back, not even really flinching. Of course, that sort of style has an expiry date, not to mention being terrible for your future health, and Joyce's chin might be cracked now, but there's also to be borne in mind that Zhang's hands down the hardest puncher in the heavyweights today. If Joyce starts getting buzzed by the likes of Chisora then we can say his chin's cracked but otherwise I think it's as solid as ever... for now.
     
  15. boxfanuk

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    I do think his chin was a little overrated.

    He got koed in the amatuers. Joshua was one of them who did so and joyce has admitted this

    Also In their sparring days joyce admitted he was seeing stars when dubois landed a clean shot on him.

    Most of the guys joyce faced were feather fisted prior to zhang.

    So yeah I do think joyces chin was a little overrated