Was Julio Cesar Chavez self taught?

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  1. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did this man teach himself how to fight? He's an amazing inside fighter and knows how to cut the ring off extremely well and parries off jabs with good success. His chin is also incredibly strong, he's never fazed. I think he's on par with a prime Mike Tyson with regards to inside fighting. I've been watching the Rosario and Roger Mayweather II fights and he's amazing.

    I still can't understand how he damages his opponents so badly over the course of 7-8 rounds. Rosario's face was busted up after the fight was stopped, Mayweather quit on his stool, and we all know about Meldrick Taylor. I still think it might be possible he used loaded gloves, but it could just be his power.

    Other than his suspectible power, his other attributes are amazing. I think his only weakness is being outboxed by someone with tremendous footwork who can keep moving and not get tired for twelve rounds. It's almost suicide to trade with him and stay in the pocket.

    Very Very elite fighter, I'd say his prime was the Rosario fight.

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    Was it all instinctive? Why didn't he teach Chavez jr his techniques, he could have benefited.
     
  2. xRedx

    xRedx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only thing that has hurt him (he admitted in the post-fight interview) was Roger Mayweather full powered right hand. You could tell because after Mayweather hit him, Chavez did a fake wobble to show he wasn't hurt. Usually Chavez never clowns around like meaning he was probably hurt and Lampley and Merchant said. Still he always has that poker-face you cant even know he's damaged.
     
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  4. josip

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    Chavez was a vicious body puncher.I love watching his fights.the first meldrick Taylor fight is one of my favorite Chavez fights.
     
  5. Sweet-D-Willy

    Sweet-D-Willy Tha Realest Full Member

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    pretty sure he had a trainer..
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    No way can you reach those levels training yourself. Boxing requires fundamental instruction like any other sport. He sparred a lot and gained a lot of experience in anticipation and inside fighting that aided him, but it was all from a framework of learning to box from someone who understood the game.
     
  7. LACMEXAME

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  8. Elite

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    Maybe. I hear that he couldn't hit the speed bag for ****.:bbb
     
  9. strongarm

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    Manny steward did say that chavez was a natural and self thought. He said that it wasnt until the higher levels that he got a real trainer. No lie
     
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    Alot of what Chavez did cant be taught.

    To get into the eye of a storm and walk it leisurely like Chavez often did, stuff like that just cant be taught.

    The anticipation, the timing, to put your gloves up in front of your face and pick off power shots like they're nothing, you dont teach that.

    Chavez just had a special talent to see punches coming at him and know exactly what to do about it. Know exactly how to move and swivel his body, to place his hands. Its a special type of ability to react thats not taught, it comes from within his natural ability but of course he practices and hones his ability so that on fight night he's razor sharp.

    Emmanuel Steward said it many times, his boxing skill was so underrated.
    Steward often mentioned Chavez teaching him things about boxing he never knew about.
    Alot of of it was self taught from naturally being born to fight!
     
  12. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is truly impressive is that when he fought Martinez @ olympic he was brought in to lose. No one had a clue that he would become a great fighter.
     
  13. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes mostly self taught.

    Do you really think he used loaded gloves? It'd be incredibly difficult to get away with it for more than a fight or two, let alone an entire career. I think its just a matter of him having exceptional natural leverage behind his shots.
     
  14. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doubt he had loaded gloves as his ko's were the result of well placed combinations where he wore down the body.
     
  15. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I remember that fight!! That is the first time I saw JC Chavez fight. I remember my dad picking Martinez to win because very little was known about JC Chavez at that time. Martinez at the time was considered a young power puncher/boxer from Jalisco.