Was Kell Brook's decision to fight GGG a career ender?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev has never jabbed an opponents head off and played keep away.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I never said he did. Both Callum Johnson and Yarde were the ones taking the fight to him and his response was to get on his bike only attack in spurts. To be perfectly honest, he looked scared of standing toe to toe with them.

    He also got on his bike against crude barroom brawler Joe Smith who in complete contrast to Lemieux has terrible technique, Dosser-esque terrible. Smith was like ''c'mon, dude.. let's have it'' but Beterbiev was like ''no freaking way, Jose'' and immediately got on his bicycle.

    Sure he blasted Smith out of there early but Smith literally handed his head on a platter to him making fundamental mistakes that even a schoolboy amateur wouldn't make.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah, and he possessed one shot lights out power in both hands albeit he would primarily anesthetize his victims with his left hook
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Beterbiev is a smart boxer. Doesn't look it sometimes, but he's much craftier than he appears.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    For sure. As I've been telling people since forever, his boxing skills have long been very underrated.
     
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  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev met them both in the center of the ring throwing bombs. He didn't jab and hide.
     
  7. Serge

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    Only in spurts and when the heat got too hot he was the first to tuck tail and get on his bike. He looked intimidated, scared even. Johnson would've KO'd him had he not stood off and given him a chance to recover like a goddamn idiot.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Perception isn't reality.
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Fear is palpable and I clearly saw it in Beterbiev's eyes and so did everyone else which belies his tough guy reputation. It was a bad look for an alpha male and speaking as a fan of his I felt let down
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes of course, he's obviously not a tough man.

    Lol.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I never said he wasn't. But he was clearly intimidated and fearful of getting into a firefight with Johnson, Yarde and Smith. If that was two apex predators squaring up to each others in the jungle he was the one who was first to back down and whose fear got the better of him. So he's still an alpha but one who cannot disguise their fear.
     
  12. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    He showed serious cojones in both taking the fight and during the fight but yeah it wasn't good for his career.
     
  13. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t think he stepped in, that suggests that Eubank and golovkin was signed, iam not certain but I don’t think it was ever signed, Eubank was all hype but it was never signed.
    Kell was offered it and took it without hesitation, people are saying it ended his career, but you could use the counter argument that it defined his career, he was avoided when possible and found it hard to stay in the rankings, it’s clear that he would fight anyone by the fact he fought ggg.
    This is how I imagine his thought process, I can’t get a run together iam not ranked high enough for a title shot, I fear no one, if I face ggg, I will be relevant again, and if not I’ll be well paid.
    The guy was not prepared to see his career fade away.
    He did the unimaginable and stepped up two weight divisions to fight one of the most avoided fighters in boxing at the time, he probably did ggg a favour, it was only after he fought Kell that the rest of the division (his actual weight class) were finally willing to fight him.
    So did it end his career? No it defined his career and got gggs career on track.
    I love kell for so many reasons and none have anything to do with his career or accomplishments, he fought with his heart and he was a boxer’s boxer, he had poise and class, as far as the eye test goes he passed it with flying colours, he will forever be underrated, he risked everything to get the career he deserved and he did that by fighting the likes of ggg.
    So no fighting ggg wasn’t a career ender it was a proper fighter who saw his last chance to actually have a career, he was not content with what he had done, he just wanted more.
    kell deserved more for his career
     
  14. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Kell was a big guy that just couldn't beat guys his size. Funny how we have all these thread about weight bully and no one seems to bring up Brook. He was huge and able to drain down to 147.

    To me it doesnt matter. you make weight you make weight
     
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  15. LWW

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    Never saw the best of Kell after Golovkin fight . A first one blow out would have been better than a sustained beating for 5 rds .
     
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