Was Khan even hit on the chin/jaw when he went down?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by combo slice, Jul 15, 2007.


  1. The Exile

    The Exile FUBAR Full Member

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  2. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More and more fights are getting removed. These will often never see the light of day on dvd so whats the point? It's the same story with the margarito/williams fight.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Yeah, I could understand if they were hoping to make money from selling the DVD (like the UFC) but more often than not the fights are never seen again.
     
  4. stake501

    stake501 Active Member Full Member

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    I have always rated Limond as well, and in my opinion he could beat Earl as well. I think Thaxton though is the guy on top of the british lw scene though.
     
  5. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    I'd play the prison level and kill all those Nutthuggers!:yep

    Man I love that level, the noises coming from tae convicts are funny as fook!
     
  6. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats just youtube. A discussion on almost any video on there turns into insults and name calling. Well if you look at Amir Khan fan forum, most have shown respect for Limmond.
     
  7. AllyT

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    Khan was in fact hit with several well places blows which included an uppercut to the chin.
     
  8. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Khan was hit with seven shots of varying degress. The first was a hard right that got to its destination quicker than Khans looping counter left hook was going to.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    The fact that he went down well from a light hitting journeyman-level fighter(internationally) is telling of what he will be able to accomplish at the World Level. Imagine if Limond had Nate Campbell's power.:yep
     
  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    This is true, however Khan is not the finished article by any stretch of the imagination. A bad chin is not necessarly the end.

    Limond IS NOT a journeyman. You are simply taking a guess, you do not know. In Arthur and Khan he may have lost to two world champs. You do not know yet. You go too much on what you think and not what you know. This is why you need to let things evolve and grow before you start being so judgemental.

    I agree Limond is generally a light hitter but he uncharacteristically look to make the fight, walk Khan down, come in with big shots etc Ultimately Khan was caught while punching and he didn't even see the right hand. Plus it was six punches later that he went down.

    I thought maybe Khan is hiding some Morales chin but I always said he didn't look solid in the pros yet. I wasn't sure on his strength, power, ability to take a shot etc His strength is still in some question though his power keeps reaching new heights. His chin has foiled in his first big fight but let's wait and see.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Achilles - I am REALLY not trying to be a pest.

    I feel that if Limond were thrown around internationally, then he'd have anywhere from 10-12 losses against medium opposition and would have lost to gate keeper's like Miguel Huerta.

    Huerta is considered a gate keeper/journeyman, but the guy has well rounded skills, power, chin and stamina and stays around... the same goes for tough nosed guys like Hernandes(whom KOed Litzau), Hernandez has a better jab than most contending British domestic fighters.

    The difference is that these guys are thrown around to the wolves internationally, I feel also that both guys would have easily KOed Khan early and BOTH are at best gate keepers. Limond is slightly less than them in terms of all around capability in my opinion, even though he's not a journeyman for the British domestic scene.

    See? I just gave two limited type fighters, both of whom have wracked up losses a lot of credit as GOOD fighters who've been around the block.:lol:

    Miguel Huerta would have KOed Khan with a straight left hand as early as round 2, he has 10 losses, is considered a "journeyman" on the WORLD CIRCUIT.

    Rooq talked about the difference between the domestic scene and the international circuit and it was a very good thread. I feel that you're giving your domestic guys way too much damn credit.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Furthermore, I can tell you right now that Khan is nothing more than a massively overhyped, Jason Litzau type. HELL, Litzau even has better power and comparable speed, just totally LACKS mentality.

    And here is to Amir's credit:

    He's got heart, I don't deny this.
     
  13. achillesthegreat

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    I rest in peace.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    MAYBE so, at 135 I think Limond would be your typical 30-10 fighter but this is not embarrassing. I want you to think Jimmy Young, Emmanuel August or Ralph Tiger.

    Let's drop and notch and think of your typical journeyman (though 30-10 still isn't journeyman), they always hurt fighters. Juan Diaz was put down by some random. He was put down twice in fact and was thought to have a weak chin - BOOM he takes Freitas shots.

    Anyone who has seen Haye-Mock would think Hayes chin IS AWFUL. His world was ROCKED by a SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT! He improved his conditioning, paced himself better and got a defence then boom he has improved ten fold and is fighting for the title.

    Don't ever say I give domestic guys too much credit. 95% of our fighters are ****. Ok, 90%, 5% turn into Hattons, Calzaghes etc and the others turn into European, WBO types in Cook, Arthur etc
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Haye doesn't have a glass chin in my opinion, I really think weight draining was his issue. HOWEVER, I don't think Haye has a solid chin either, I think it's just solid enough to hold up under circumstances where a glass chin would prevent success.

    And you know I got nothing against Haye, the more a guy like him succeeds, the better for boxing.

    At the very least, you have to admit that I can spot a bad chin with little to no evidence, considering that I have NEVER been incorrect in about 50 or so predictions over the years on hype jobs.:lol: :lol: :lol: