Was Khan ever considered number one?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by patch1983, Feb 14, 2012.


  1. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    That's interesting about the HBO dates, is it true? Was it said anywhere at the time?

    I was under the impression that part of the deal Bradley agreed to when he fought Devon, was another fight on HBO guaranteed, and that he'd extend his contract with Shaw to June to cover that fight. But if there was no HBO dates until July that doesn't make any sense.

    I always thought that hey July date was to fit into Khan's schedule of getting 3 fights in a year and working it around ramadan, so they go April, July, December.
     
  2. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I'm not excusing it, I just understand. Mayweather is a different case though. Tim had been fighting the best in his division, while Floyd had been cherry picking. Floyd made big money whatever he did. Tim doesn't have that luxury. Also most people felt Alexander was a better fighter than Khan until the Kotelnik fight. No point rewriting history.

    "ducking" is a really childish term, made more childish by the emoticon you placed beside it. Regardless if the guarantee, Tim now has a better fight while khan is taking on a guy Tim beat comprehensively already.
     
  3. Go Getta

    Go Getta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bradley never wanted any of Khan after the Maidana fight, joining TR comfirmed that.

    His intentions of fighting Pac will be clear after the fight, the manner in which he wins or loses will shows us if he was just after the cash or he really wanted to beat Pac.

    Khan held a title and was No.2 in the division yet Bradley bypassed him.
     
  4. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes. The Ring Magazine recoginsed him as number one between the Judah and Petersen fights.

    Based on more activity, better opposition and the fact that Tim Bradley openly admitted that he was ducking Khan

    Khans loss to Petersen doesn't change any of that, nor does it retroactivley change that historical ranking

    Yes he was considered number one

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  5. Uncle Rico

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    I myself never read any of that at the time. Details of it only came to surface later on when the dispute was going on. I got it from Dan Rafael - or one of the ESPN lot - a while back.

    In the summer sometime of 2010, was when Shaw secured that HBO two-fight deal for Timmy and extended his contract with him to June - assuming that would be enough time to fit the two fights in. Then of course there was the difficulty of making the first one (Alexander) - venue, purses, etc. That led it to taking place in January - a little later than what HBO had hoped for. Then, as this was approaching, HBO's summer schedule was filling up I guess, and they only had a July date the soonest. Weird, because they still had April free for Khan-McCloskey. Maybe that was because it was the supporting fight to Berto-Ortiz, and Bradley-Khan - considering the money they threw at promoting this 4-man tourny - was being reserved for its own headline, seperate event. I don't know. But July was what was given, and Bradley verbally (only verbally, according to Dunkin and Shaw) agreed to extend by a couple of weeks. The rest is history.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd's cherry-picking began from Baldomir. Up until the Margarito refusal, he pretty much fought the best. His resume and achievements then, far surpassed what Bradley's are now. So if fighting the best competition is what excuses a man for bypassing the tougher fight, then Floyd deserved to be excused more than Bradley. Even if you fastforward to Oscar/Hatton and the subsequent retirement, he was still fighting the required fights (better than anything that Bradley's done).

    Ok, if you don't like the term 'duck', I'll use 'avoid'. He avoided Khan.
     
  7. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Your point about Floyd isn't true. From 140 and up he took lesser challenges like Gatti, Bruselles, etc when there were better.opponents on the table.

    The difference is that he drew money regardless. Without his belts Tim has nothing, really.
     
  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was only a brief stop at 140 (three fights was it?) before quickly jumping up to 147, so getting the absolute best in all of them three fights wasn't easy. I do remember him wanting Kosta, though. But for whatever reason, it didn't happen. But **** it. I hate Floyd's guts. He is a cherry-picker. You're right. I don't even know why I'm wasting time defending the ****.
     
  9. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    Didn't Alexander get a spot in June though?
     
  10. patch1983

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    I just can't see how Khan was considered number one. Who did he belt that was worth him being considered that highly? Bradley has by far the better wins.